Still not working -- many error messages. How about I just revert to version 
8-something of the JDK?

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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:52 PM
To: Walter Oney <walter.o...@oneylaw.com>
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Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has happened to the promise of platform independence

Whatever it is you're trying to do, please do not try and download any JavaFX 
SDK or whatever.

Use the samples in the OpenJFX category, which means you're using the Gluon 
samples, which download the JARs that you need via Maven.

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb111/index.html


Gj


On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:50 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org 
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        https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb111/index.html
        

        Gj

        On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:50 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org 
<mailto:geert...@apache.org> > wrote:
        

                The samples in the OpenJFX category use Maven, they are the 
Gluon samples, yes, they will build with JDK 11 or later.

                The category, as stated by Neil, is named OpenJFX, you can see 
a picture of them in the 11.1 features page:


                On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:46 PM Walter Oney 
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                        I just noticed that you said to pick a "JavaFX" sample. 
Duh. I got a message to the effect that my JDK doesn't support JavaFX, so the 
wizard doesn't even build an app.
                        
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                        Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has happened to the promise of 
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                        What is the name of the sample that you picked?
                        
                        Gj
                        
                        On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:40 PM Walter Oney 
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                                A follow-on: I *did* previously change the 
value of JAVA_HOME. I happened to check in a stale cmd window.
                        
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                                Subject: RE: A Bad Thing has happened to the 
promise of platform independence
                        
                                Well, Maven downloaded a whole bunch of things 
(probably good). The run step failed with these three messages:
                        
                                Error: opening registry key 
'Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment' [sure enough, it's not there]
                                Error: could not find java.dll [it's in 
\Program Files\Java\jdk-11.0.4\bin, whereas JAVA_HOME is still pointing to 
jdk-13 even though I thought I previously changed it by hand.]
                                Error: Could not find the Java SE Runtime 
Environment
                        
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                                Now don't do anything other than this -- open 
the New Project dialog, go to the Samples category, in the JavaFX category pick 
one of the two samples you see there. Complete the wizard. Run the sample.
                        
                                Gj
                        
                                On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:23 PM Walter Oney 
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                                        Here you go.
                        
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                                        Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has happened 
to the promise of platform independence
                        
                                        Cab you go to Help | About in Apache 
NetBeans 11.1 and copy what you see there and paste it here and send it so we 
can really see what the environment is that you're making use of?
                        
                                        Gj
                        
                                        On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:12 PM Walter 
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                                                I'm doing this particular 
project on Windows 10. By "installing" I mean running the .exe (if there is 
one) from a web site or downloading a JAR file and putting it some place where 
I can find it.
                        
                                                I keep having private 
conversations with Geertjan without meaning to -- from long habit, I hardly 
ever hit reply-all. Anyhow, he wondered what version of the JDK I was using. 
Initially, I think I had 11.0 or 11.1. Then I decided to get the latest and 
greatest, so I uninstalled that and installed 13 without realizing it didn't 
come with JavaFX (which I need for the graphics). I'm back to 11.1 now, which I 
downloaded from Oracle. It appears not to have JavaFX built-in like Oracle says 
it should. 
                        
                                                I'm grateful that you guys are 
working on a Saturday and trying to help a newbie out.
                        
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                                                Subject: Re: A Bad Thing has 
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                                                On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 12:04, 
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                                                > My current self-assigned task 
is to port the app to Linux in the hope that I’ll find more robust WiFi support 
than Win10 has. I was hopping along as a happy little bunny with NetBeans 8.4 
and some version or another of the JDK that included JavaFX. I was misled by 
the incomplete instructions for installing JNA to omit downloading jna.jar. 
Someone later corrected my mistake on the stackoverflow forum, but not before I 
had installed JDK 13, a current release of OpenJFX, and NetBeans 11.1. I ended 
up in Version Hell, which is where you go when you have mismatched versions of 
your tools. I don’t even know what the path back might be.
                        
                                                My first thought is are you 
doing this on the Linux machine you talk
                                                about or still on Windows 10?  
If Linux, which OS?  And what exactly
                                                do you mean by "installing"?  
Some of the things you mention there
                                                should probably be part of your 
project but not installed.  Relying on
                                                Linux packages for anything 
other than perhaps OpenJDK is very hit and
                                                miss!
                        
                                                Best wishes,
                        
                                                Neil
                        
                        
                        
                        
                                        
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