Thank you all for your answers and the links.

Geertjan, I do not understand why the transfer to Apache is so complex and needs to change from html format to asciidoc format, thus removing the screenshots, but this is beyond the scope of this mail. Of course, screenshots are welcome, but not needed if the text of the tutorial gives enough details and is OK. Thank you for the cleaned piece of code, I could rebuild and run the XML tutorial.

I cannot contribute to improve tutorials if I do not understand them, as my knowledge in Java and Netbeans is rather low. But I consider that pointing out errors in the doc is also a contribution. Maybe the users list is not the right place to do that, but I don't want to do anymore and create a new account on github in order to contribute, at least until I have a better knowledge to be efficient.

Maybe you think that I am only a "consumer", but I am still at the learning stage with the Netbeans Platform. I am reading the nbp4beginners book, and I need also good tutorials. But you can't say that I am only a "consumer" : I know what is an open source project and a community, and I am a contributor for the community of Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice users for which I spent most of my free time using Netbeans to develop and update a JavaDesktop tool that helps to repair corrupted documents (ODFRepar tool).

Richard

Le 06/03/2021 à 20:58, Geertjan Wielenga a écrit :
Everything as it was before worked fine for you. Not for me. :-) I was working on them all on my own -- and that is not how open source is supposed to work.

We're in Apache now, which means you get involved -- you don't say "I do not know where and how to fill an issue", instead you say: "Where do I go and how do I fill out an issue?"

And that is here:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/NETBEANS-5397?filter=allopenissues

Also, all the tutorials are now on GitHub. Including the one you're referring to:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/tutorials/nbm-xmleditor.asciidoc

I've already fixed the broken code via this pull request, as a result of your mail:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/532

Nothing here is "rather disappointing" -- everything is in progress, including the tutorials. The big difference now is that you're in a project where you're no longer a consumer, you're a contributor.

Yes, the tutorials have been transferred from HTML to Asciidoc on GitHub and the process is far from complete. Your mail has motivated me to commit to working on one of the NetBeans Platform tutorials per day, it will take a while to get everything up to scratch -- and a simple copy and paste of the tutorials would not have done the trick, since the old ones were HTML and the new ones are Asciidoc on GitHub -- so that you can now contribute too.

Welcome to Apache. :-)

Gj


On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:51 PM Richard Grenon <rgreno...@gmail.com <mailto:rgreno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hello Geertjan.

    Netbeans Platform concepts are not easy to understand (I have
    purchased the book for beginners), and wrong tutorials are rather
    discouraging.

    I do not know where and how to fill an issue, and I discovered the
    problem for the XML editor tutorial this evening. The old tutorial
    has gone and the new one is wrong. You can have a look on this
    tutorial that is rather short.

    Only the first screenshot for creating the project is correct. All
    following screenshots do not follow the text, and some of them
    seem to be from other applications.

    Finally, the short piece of code given for the method is melted
    with html links, so it is unreadable.

    I cannot provide correct screenshots and code because I have
    erased my first test of this tutorial, and the html page with the
    correct old version of the tutorial has gone.

    I do not know if other Apache tutorials are wrong, but the
    transfer of this one is rather disappointing. Why the old version
    from netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org> has not been simply copied
    to a new Apache page rather than rewritten with errors ? For me,
    correcting the tutorial would be simply to provide a link pointing
    on the old version.

    So the question is : where can we find all the tutorials from the
    old netbeans.org <http://netbeans.org>?

    Richard

    Le sam. 6 mars 2021 à 20:05, Geertjan Wielenga
    <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com
    <mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>> a écrit :


        Which screenshots specifically are wrong — I’d be happy to
        collaborate with you to work on the tutorials that you would
        like fixed. If you create a new issue for each tutorial you’d
        like to work together on, with very precise descriptions of
        what is wrong, ideally providing the correct screenshot or
        code, and otherwise just being precise in saying what should
        be corrected, we can work on this together to improve the
        tutorials in order of your preference.

        What do you think?

        Gj

        On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 19:54, Richard <rgreno...@gmail.com
        <mailto:rgreno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Hello.

            Some days ago, I successfully performed a tutorial for XML
            Editor
            extension. The link was :

            https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-xmleditor.html

            As I had removed this test from my disk, today I tried to
            perform again
            this tutorial, but the link points now to :

            https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorials/nbm-xmleditor.html

            On this new link, the screenshots do not correspond to the
            text, and the
            code given for the method "actionPerformed" is unreadable
            because it
            contains links to javadoc html pages, and all these links
            point to the
            Apache transition page :

            https://netbeans.apache.org/about/oracle-transition.html

            Please, could anybody check this tutorial (and maybe other
            tutorials) or
            provide a link to the correct old version ?

            Richard

            
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