> -1 from me. I think we made the right steps previously, and perhaps > should look at whether particular templates need updating or removing > entirely. But Ant still has its place, particularly with regard to > the platform. > > I'd also prefer an unopinionated IDE. And from an ASF perspective, > Ant is still an active project here - Apache's IDE should possibly not > be deciding when it's time to retire it! :-)
+1 to Neil's comment! An IDE should remain a tool and not a ruler. We should reach out to the Apache Ant (and other Apache projects) for collaboration with us. > In an ideal world, the Apache Ant community would be developing and > promoting the Apache Ant features in Apache NetBeans. Another +1 to GJ's comment. Darn right that the Apache Ant community should be promoting and */touting/* the Apache Ant features in NB! I believe, if I am remembering correctly, that NB was one of the first Java IDEs to provide integrated support for Apache Ant. And the IDE integration for it has always be top-notch... /* */ -SC