2009/3/3 Richard <judgesi...@netscape.net>

> Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>
>> OOo3 is the worst version ever and like Netscape ver 4 a complete disaster
>>>> that will loose countless users and loyal supporters.
>>>> I am officially removing OOo 3 from my office 7 machines, I have used
>>>> OOo since ver 1 but can no longer support its very slow operation, my staff
>>>> are complaining bitterly and this is despite upgrades in PC's etc., It
>>>> appears no one is capable of answering the reasons for the slow and
>>>> unacceptable speeds of opening and closing a file from a file server.
>>>> Let all be warned, this ver 3 is a step backwards and mso is becoming
>>>> more and more attractive despite its cost as time saved relates to money
>>>> saved.
>>>>
>>> The issues I raise are genuine, and frankly this news room has never
>>> solved any major issues I have ever had, you don't provide answers,
>>>
>>
>> Remember the parable of the college student who had one horrible
>> room-mate after another,  she couldn't get along with any of them.  In
>> every situation what [or who] was the common denominator?
>>
>>  because there is no solution or you simply do not know, you are the AH's
>>> for not accepting there is a problem and burying your heads in the sand.
>>> Frustration certainly, and I wonder how many of you have used OOo as long
>>> as I have and how many of you use it in an environment such as mine
>>>
>>
>> I've used it long enough that I paid a German company for my first copy.
>>
>>  and not just on a single machine?
>>>
>>
>> I've got quite a few users who use it, and not just on a LAN, but over a
>> WAN that spans three states.
>>
>>> I have been a champion of OOo for more years than most of you have even
>>> used the programme.
>>>
>>
>> (a) You have no idea how long anyone here has been using OOo.  I've been
>> using StarOffice for years before there was an OpenOffice.  In 2007 your
>> first post stated you'd been using OOo for 4 - 5 years.  That means you
>> started in late 2001 at the earliest;  I assure you there are *many*
>> people here who have been using SO/OOo for much longer [like a decade!]
>> than you.  It is interesting that your post then was about exactly the
>> issue you are complaining about now.
>> (b) Claiming to be a champion is always in poor taste.   A simple Google
>> search of your e-mail address provides no evidence of such.  And nearly
>> every single one of your messages is unequivocally negative.  Your
>> frequent use of profanity doesn't help the case.
>>
>>  There are serious issues with OOo 3 and that's a fact and NOT ONE OF THE
>>> AH's REPLYING HERE CAN GIVE ME AN ANSWER AS TO WHY IT SAVES SLOW ONTO A FILE
>>> SERVER and OPENS SLOW FROM A FILE SERVER.
>>>
>>
>> (a) Why would I even try? Your coming across as an angry jerk.  Pay me
>> and I might consider putting up with that.  For free? No way.
>>
>> <constructive and technical>
>> (b) what diagnostics have you tried?  Did you analyze the traffic to see
>> what was going on?  Listing the files open on a fileserver is very
>> trivial admin stuff, and a good place to start.  You've provided nothing
>> concrete enough to make even the wildest guess.  If it is a Samba server
>> just do an "smbstatus" and it will list open files.  Also wireshark, or
>> even etherape, will provide a nice picture of what is going on on the
>> wire.  I'd suspect this is much more likely to be a network
>> configuration issue than an application issue.  Different applications
>> can respond quite differently to subtle network configuration issues -
>> the fact that you perceive MSO as faster doesn't help [it might just be
>> shuttling some task into a background thread and generating even more
>> network I/O than OOo for all we know - unless you check].
>> </constructive and technical>
>>
>> (c) Obviously not everyone is having your problem which means the issue
>> is probably local to your configuration.  See (b) that anyone would need
>> real information in order to help you.
>>
>>  MSO on the other hand is fast, same size and type of files, same file
>>> server and same workstations!
>>>
>>
> "Pay me and I might consider putting up with that" you have no idea what
> the problem is hot shot, cause if you did, you would show off about it here.
> I am very computer literate and as clearly, only a lot of wind was being
> blown here I have in fact, discovered a fix, the file server has remained
> unchanged for years and it is OOo specific as word does not behave in the
> same manner and after a few changes to the registry I have changed the open,
> auto saving, saving and closing of the OOo files to "instant" over the
> network, the reg changes though, should not have needed to have been made
> and are certainly not at user level.


This thread may possibly have been amusing initially, but didn't it lose its
fraƮcheur quite some time ago ? Perhaps we can let it die a natural death
?...

Henri

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