On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 22:28 -0600, Troll/Idiot wrote:
> Well, Brewster, you've chewed it over at some length on several 
> occasions.  Get used to the idea that given the same facts, different 
> people will reach different conclusions, equally valid. 

bg:

I'm familiar with that possibility. I am also well able to understand
that there are only two possible interpretations of the typical cursor
positioning in "REPLY" mode, and a careful assessment of both
choices makes it abundantly plain which one is superior. 
Life presents us with a pattern of differential choices whose 
relative worth is plain to see for those who bother to examine them.

Something that those of the "Whatever!" generations seem to consider
way too much hard work for them. It's a lot easier to fall back on
meaningless psychobabble bromides like "different people will reach
different conclusions, equally valid."

I am painfully aware that, in the 21st century, we are inundated with
people who have been carefully indoctrinated to believe that all points
of view are equally valid, and that all human beings deserve respect
solely based in their ability to draw breath. That the most horrific
possible outcome might be that something, or someone, could be shown
to be superior to something, or someone, else.

You'll pardon me if I reject that shit out of hand :-)

Troll:

> Some people, more experienced than you in email lists and internet forums, 
> find top 
> posting preferable.  It's not just the newbies, the ignorant and the 
> inexperienced.

bg:

Whatever gave you the idea that you know what my level of experience is?
I first used email in 1981, and first used elists/forums in about the
middle Eighties. I have never encountered anyone with a similar length
of exposure who prefers top-posting. You would be the first. Assuming
you go back that far.

By the way, my email software, a widely used and well-established open
source program, specifically says, under "Composer Preferences",
that top posting is "not recommended".

> Troll/Idiot
> Have a nice day.  Don't expect everyone else to think like you do.

bg:

You really are hilarious, and seem to have drawn your argumentative
structures from your days in preschool. It is not a matter of expecting
people to "think like [I] do". It is a matter of expecting them
to think logically, and expecting them to exert a little mindfulness
as to how their work impacts their fellow Net users.

Now, suppose you explain to me how much sense this three-element
interleave would have made had it been written in reverse order.

Top-posting is about laziness, and about ignorance, and about having
a tin ear when it comes to the more subtle nuances of communications.

All of which tend towards, if not limited to, those with the least
experience of the Net and its group activities. You are fighting a
losing battle, philosophically, and your adversaries in the war, in the 
aggregate, are vastly more experienced, not just at the Net, but 
apparently at life, than you.

The fact that you may have millions of AOLers, and Yahooers,  MSNers
and gmailers at your back, these days, still does not make yours the
correct position.


Brewster

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