On 6/13/2010 7:44 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On 06/13/2010 05:19 PM, David B Teague wrote:
On 6/13/2010 2:33 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2010-06-13 2:23 PM, David B Teague wrote:
I run an older 1.6 GHZ Sempron 2.8 with 1 GB Ram, and a not-very-fast
backplane. I just installed OO.0 3.2.1 and it took less than a half
hour, consistent with earlier versions. I saw other responses with
suggestions for cleaning up your system that look like they might
help.
A half *hour*??? Just to *install* it???
On your system, the install should take considerably less than 5
minutes...
Are you installing it over an internet connection? That's the only
way I
can see for it to take that long.
The tone of your remark is harsher than you perhaps meant it to be.
I do not understand what you mean "installing over an internet
connection." Everyone who does not use a CD to install OO.o must
install from the web. One downloads the executable installer from the
OOo web site then runs the executable installer.
Running the installation program itself takes more than 8 minutes
here, but there are other things to do besides just run the installer.
Fetching installer, 5+ minutes, installation, 8+ minutes. I ran OO.o
to check settings, "load at startup" was not checked. When first
started, OO.o demanded I register, and sent me to Oracle's web site,
which would not accept my login name and password I had retained from
Suns' web site. After many attempts, it told me it couldn't do this
because of a "server error." A substantial waste of time.
The time I quoted included download, install, and registration time.
The time to download and run the installer was about 15 minutes, and
is consistent with the time taken to install earlier versions of OO.o.
I probably should have been a bit more careful and should not have
included wasted registration time.
When you respond to questions on this mailing list, it would be well
to be more gentle.
David Teague
What do you mean by "demanded I register"?
I stated this more strongly than I intended. When I ran OO.o the first
time, I was presented with the options of never registering, registering
later, or registering now. I thought that registering gives Oracle data
about users of OO.o that would might help them decide to continue
funding OO.o development so I /attempted /to register. I have no idea
whether I succeeded. Once I got to the Oracle web site it wanted me to
either generate an account there or to give them my Sun registry user
name and password to log in. It rejected every attempt to use these from
the Sun web site and it refused to allow me to generate an account on
the Oracle web site, finally saying there was a server error.
I only register on the big version changes, like 2.x.x to 3.0.x and
then 3.1.0, then 3.2.0.
I did not do a registration for this past update. Also I install on
so many computers, may
with either no Net connection or dial-up, I never register on other
computers except one.
Then only once.
I would not have registered this time but for the Oracle buy-out of Sun
and OO.o development, and as I said, the idea that maybe, just maybe, my
registering would provide a nano-scopic increase in their inclination to
continue funding OO.o.
I am a firm believer in downloading OOo and burning it for others to
install so they
do not have to take the time for themselves, many who only have
dial-up and would
not, or cannot, take the time to download it for themselves.
I even unpack the files for them, so they do not have to wait.
Your time is not too bad for an install time, and I have seen much
longer,
and installed on systems that took longer. That is the lot of the guy
who
has to sit there waiting for one piece of software or another to
install. I remember
installing software taking hours. Even now, updating Ubuntu from the
past
version to the 10.04 version took hours and hours downloading over
broadband
all the needed files and then the install itself.
So whenever someone thinks a download/install of 30 - 60 minutes is
long, remember
it could be much worse, even with a 4 month old computer, for
downloading and installing
software.
I remember dial-up. And remember ordering CDs to avoid downloads that
lasted 3 days and more. I blessed the day when I discovered the download
manager. I was even happier when DSL finally came to the boon-docks and
that gloriously faster connection.
Thanks for you kind words.
David Teague
