On 28/03/2008 13:44, Jim Allan wrote:
John Jason Jordan wrote:
The problem is that hex 251 (decimal 593) should give you a "script
a" (fat-a as linguists sometimes call it). It should not give you a
check mark or a u-circumflex. If your e-mail client displays it
properly, it should be ɑ.
The reason I need this is for a web site that some other students and I
am creating:
http://ipa4linguists.pbwiki.com/FrontPage
Go to the Linux or Windows pages and click on the OOo link. I haven't
changed the page yet to reflect that it doesn't work on OOo/Windows.
I'm hoping I won't have to, but so far it appears that there is no
solution.
I should also file a bug report.
To me there appears to be nothing out of the ordinary. The standard
Windows method is that if you type ALT + numbers from the numeric
keypad without a leading zero, you get the symbol with that number in
your current DOS character set.
That works.
If you type it with a leading zero, then you get the character from
your current Windows character set.
That works.
But if you enter any number over 255 or 0255, then only the first byte
of the number gets through, so that effectively the number wraps, so
that 256 equates to character 0, 257 equates to character 1, 258
equates to character 2, and so forth.
The standard Windows method doesn’t work for characters greater than
255. This is the way that the Alt method of getting extra characters
has always behaved in Windows.
MS-Office, but not Windows, has a different method. You can enter
ALT-characters over 0255 and they will work, and you will indeed get
the Unicode character whose decimal value is what you have typed.
But this method has never worked in OOo, and still does not work in
OOo which has never provided ANY keyboard method of entering
characters not directly supported by your keyboard (other than
ALLOWING the Windows ALT-keypad method for characters whose number if
less than 256 decimal.)
So nothing has changed.
You can download the free program “Quick Unicode Input Tool” from
http://www.cardbox.com/quick.htm if you want. This allows you to enter
any Unicode character from the Unicode base plane in either decimal on
the numeric keypad or in hex if preceded by ALT-NUMERIC KEYPAD DECIMAL
and you continue to hold down the ALT key while you type the following
digits.
Note that on Vista, at least on my machine, your must manually turn
this on every session, or it won’t work properly.
I long ago filed a bug report on this as 61540 (see
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61540 ).
So nothing at all is happening that is out of the ordinary.
Jim Allan
Ahhhh. I can't see anything in the cardbox documentation that mentions
the numeric keypad's decimal point. All is sweetness and light again.
Thank you., Jim Allan.
While we are talking about that utility, can you explain why the "Only
when Numlock is ON" option does not seem to have any effect on anything;
what is that option supposed to do?
Also, what do you mean by "Note that on Vista, at least on my machine,
your must manually turn this on every session, or it won’t work properly."?
--
Harold Fuchs
London, England
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