On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 07:37 -0700, Linda Walsh wrote:
> Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> > Be liberal in what you accept, strict in what you send. In particular,
> > later stages simply must not be less liberal than early stages.
> > Your MX has accepted the message.
>
> My ISP's MX has accepted it, because it doesn't do domain checking. My
> machine's MX rejects it so fetchmail keeps trying to deliver it.
There is only one MX, run by your ISP. You are running an SMTP relay,
not an MX.
> While I *could* figure out how to hack sendmail to not reject the message,
You don't have a choice. That sendmail is an *internal* SMTP relay after
the MX border. While you certainly are not looking at it this way, your
own services *together* with the SMTP run by your ISP form your internal
network.
The internal relay you run must not be stricter than the MX. In fact, it
simply cannot be stricter, without mail ending up in limbo. Exactly what
you have...
> > There is no forwarding.
>
> It comes in their MX, and is forwarded to their users.
Again, that is not forwarding. (Hint: You are using fetchmail, not
being-forwarded-to-me-mail.)
> > > Any ideas on how to get a cheapo-doesn't want to support anything ISP to
> > > start blocking all the garbage the pass on?
> >
> > Change ISP. You decided for them to run your MX.
>
> I didn't decide for them, I inherited them when they bought out the
> competition to supply lower quality service for the same price.
We're about to split hairs, but it is your decision to try get your ISP
to behave as you want, instead of taking your business elsewhere. So,
yes, it is your decision to let them run your MX.
> > It is your choice to aim for a cheapo service (your words).
>
> It wasn't when I signed up. Cost $100 extra/month. Now only $30
> extra/month that I don't host the domain with them.
But it is now, and all you're doing is complaining about it.
Expenses dropped to a fraction of what it used to be, yet you expect the
same service as before?
> > If you're unhappy with the service, take your business elsewhere.
> > Better service doesn't necessarily mean more expensive, but you
> > might need to shell out a few bucks for the service you want.
>
> I already am... my ISP (cable company) doesn't have the services I want
> for mail hosting. I went to another company for that,
It is irrelevant weather your mail service provider happens to also be
your cable provider. You are paying for mail services. And if you want
better service, you might need to pay more -- which is what I said.
Besides, your wording is almost ironic. Your ISP didn't offer the email
service you want, so you went for another company. Now your current
(mail) service provider doesn't offer the service you want...
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