Nick,
BOTH Noel and I have agreed that it is NOT the client. You can think it
comes down to what client someone uses all you want. That isn't going
to make it true.
You obviously haven't read the explanation very carefully.
Ted
On 12/8/2014 2:26 AM, Nick Edwards wrote:
I cant see what the fuss is about, using gmail, your text is all about
the same size, except when Noel says he changed to 12pt, then it looks
larger than everyone else's, including jdow's.
I think it comes down to what client you're using, and its fine by my
reckoning, and it also word wraps fine here, if I was him I wouldnt
bother changing a thing.
On 12/8/14, Ted Mittelstaedt<t...@ipinc.net> wrote:
Eh? I'm not young, unfortunately, although I'll take it as a compliment.
I don't really care if Noel uses Roundcube or not, but it was irritating
when he was asserting a few days ago that it "wasn't his MUA's problem"
when it clearly WAS his MUA's problem.
After several others chimed in telling him that yes, they were seeing
the same thing, I see he has finally accepted it.
Please note that I didn't start this one either, I was NOT the first one
to point out the legibility issues. Others did, were told it was their
problem. I don't like innocents being blamed, and I'm quite sure if
most people were in a car accident where the other driver was 100% at
fault, they would not stand for accepting blame either.
If that's impolite, I'm not sure what the definition of polite is - is
it paying for the car accident you didn't cause? Just asking.
Ted
On 12/5/2014 12:24 PM, jdow wrote:
Charmingly polite again, eh Ted? Surely you can do better, young man.
{+_+}
On 2014-12-05 01:46, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
The problem is Roundcube. It does not insert soft line breaks
as per the MIME Quoted-Printable encoding. There's a lot of
MIME stuff that Roundcube doesn't do very well, it's just not a very
good web
mail interface. I'm always surprised at how vehemently
people defend it.
Many email clients can be set to automatically wrap received text.
Including the
one I'm using now. But I don't turn that feature on because I want to
give the
SENDER of the message control over text positioning. I feel that if
the sender
has laid out their email a particular way, they have a reason for it.
ASCII with a fixed font like Courier has always been the standard for
email, and
you can do stuff like this with it:
------------------ ------- \
| Network router |---| NID |-------
------------------ ------- /
Which is far, far quicker and more efficient than attaching some visio
drawing
that I probably don't have a viewer for loaded on whatever system I'm
using.
And I won't even get into indentation of code in Email messages.
As such, senders who are clever and careful and make use of fixed
width fonts
and ASCII text can do a heck of a lot quicker communicating and more
understandable than a bunch of HTMLized stuff using a proportional
spaced font
that munges drawings, and destroys indentation, and such people have a
damn good
reason at times to send out text that is soft broken at specific
places. So if
I turn on Word Wrap like Android does I have just succeeded in
shooting myself
in the foot when I get an email from the smart people. So I assume the
sender
knows what they are doing and do I don't try to second guess them by
wrapping
their stuff.
If you want to send out email that looks like it's been beaten by an
ugly stick
with weird looking fonts and lines that run on forever and ever, with
no thought
to positioning and making it look readable, as far as I'm concerned,
that's not
a reflection on me, it's a reflection on you. I'm not going to change
my config
to clean up your email, particularly when your the only one doing it,
no more
than I would waste time tucking in the shirt and straightening the tie
and
shining the shoes of a salesguy who showed up to sell me something.
It's also not really my job to explain the concept of the blind
leading the
blind and relate that to the fact that "nobody else has ever yadda
yadda yadda"
but I'll do it anyway - it wasn't too long ago when the vast majority
of people
thought the world was flat, but that merely meant that the vast
majority of
people were ignorant - just like the vast majority of people who have
never
brought it up to you before are just as ignorant of line wrapping.
After all,
it is an esoteric subject.
Ted
On 12/4/2014 10:20 PM, Noel Butler wrote:
On 05/12/2014 14:40, Dave Pooser wrote:
On 12/4/14 10:27 PM, "Nick Edwards"<nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com
<mailto:nick.z.edwa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's also not wrapping the text at all.
it wraps fine here
Look at the last roundcube post, the one sent at 01:06 GMT. The line
of
quoted text runs 273 columns without a linewrap.
What client are you using?
roundcube - wraps
Evolution - wraps
the font size btw is identical to yours on both.
only two I use for this a/c
forwarded that message in question to my private address, and checked
it
in android tablet and phone, both wrap.
since no one has ever brought this up with me before, I'm placing this
as not my problem to resolve.
