Am 23.11.2015 um 10:43 schrieb Matthias Apitz:
El día Monday, November 23, 2015 a las 10:38:20AM +0100, Reindl Harald escribió:$ fgrep RDNS_NONE /tmp/apache.d nov 23 08:30:06.666 [2204] dbg: rules: ran header rule __RDNS_NONE ======> got hit: "[ ip=140.211.11.3 rdns= " you can find the full -D output of such a mail here: http://www.unixarea.de/apache.d.txtpost the full headers of that messageHere it is:
blame your MTA our your MTA configuration for the way it adds received headers without name resolving, look at my recceived header and yours for 140.211.11.3
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amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Envelope-To: g...@unixarea.de Status: RO Content-Length: 2168 Lines: 60 On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:39:49 +0000 David Jones wrote:From: RW <rwmailli...@googlemail.com>by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32)This is a submission header, so the DNS of 93.104.16.254 doesn't matter.Thank you for pointing that out. Also now that we know that SA is running on a local netbook, it would make sense that the problem server is 178.254.4.77. It's SMTP HELO is imap.1blu.de but it's forward and reverse DNS is mf-13.1blu.de.That wont be a problem, a fetchmail header cannot be recognised as the edge of the internal network. It's not a test for full-circle DNS. And as I pointed out, the next header down was the one that triggered RDNS_NONE in the absence of any trusted or internal network.Interesting that this Received header was added via IMAP. That IP or subnet could be added to the trusted_networks list if it's always going to be in there. If it's the ISP's hosting mail server then it needs to be skipped to get back to the first public IP that sent to smtp.1blu.de. The server before smtp.1blu.de should be the one where all of the network checks are done.There shouldn't be any such tests on this email because it was submitted directly into the service provider's network. This means that the mail passed though a different route compared to normal delivery. Getting the internal/trusted networks right for this kind of mail is of often significantly more difficult than dealing with the normal case, and may be more trouble than it's worth on a network you don't control. A test email that's sent through a third-party mail service is much more representative as a test.https://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Rules/RDNS_NONE RDNS_NONE checks more than just the PTR (reverse) DNS record. It really should be named FCRDNS_NONEThen the wiki is wrong. header __RDNS_NONE X-Spam-Relays-External =~ /^[^\]]+rdns= / header __DOMINO_RCVD Received =~ /by \S+ \(Lotus Domino / header __CGATE_RCVD Received =~ /by \S+ \(CommuniGate Pro/ meta RDNS_NONE (__RDNS_NONE && !__CGATE_RCVD && !__DOMINO_RCVD)
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