Em Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:19:17 -0200, Alfonso Quiroga <alfonsose...@gmail.com> escreveu:

Hi! very interesting thread. I use T5 since 1 year aprox, and it's
true that T-IOC was the first "wall" I had, now I understand it and I
like it a lot (my system does NOT use spring, all with t-ioc). I don't
know which is the solution, because there is documentation about
t-ioc, but maybe more documentation? or maybe a demo-project that uses
basic t-ioc. I think is easier seeing something working, than reading
t-ioc documentation and start from scratch.

Better documentation and examples are a very good idea. :)
Demo projects would really help. Something like the Guice introduction would be nice.

Another point.. I think it's impossible to use T5 without t-ioc, is
this right? If it's possible, it would be a good idea uploading
another demo-project without t-ioc.

It's impossible. T5 uses T-IoC in every way possible. T-IoC was created for T5 because none of the IoC containers at that time provided everything T5 needs.

What else? js.. prototype-based, I know it's possible to have
prototype+jquery together, but I can see lot of people heading jquery,
so I have a long-term plan.. make a tapestry.js based on jquery, if I
do it obviously I'll share it.

There's a plan not to switch from Prototype to jQuery. There's a plan to have JavaScript stacks, one implemented with Prototype, another with jQuery. No dates yet.

But "the solution" for this would be a tapestry.js agnostic, so people
can "inject" their favourite framework. So, maybe it could be shipped
with a default prototype injection, but anyone could write a mootols
injection, jquery injection, etc etc

The plan looks like your description. :) Lot of work to implement it, though. It would be almost something like a JavaScript framework abstraction layer.

Last, it would be good more components (ui components).

Agreed. Don't forget to check the third-party packages in the Tapestry home page.

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Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, and instructor Owner, software architect and developer, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
http://www.arsmachina.com.br

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