On 29.07.2013 22:36, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> Rainer,
> 
> On 7/29/13 1:22 PM, Rainer Jung wrote:
>> On 29.07.2013 17:26, Nicholas Williams wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Christopher Schultz 
>>> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>> If it's a resources limitation, I have a publicly-accessible 
>>>>> TeamCity server with an unlimited OpenSource license hosting 
>>>>> Windows 7, Mac OS X SLeopard/Lion/MLion, Debian, RedHat, and
>>>>> SuSE agents that I would be happy to donate some resources
>>>>> from. It's not very busy and would have plenty of time to run
>>>>> CI, SNAPSHOT, and RC builds for all of the platforms.
>>>>
>>>> No, the problem is that there are so many different
>>>> combinations of platform, environment, etc. that it would
>>>> represent an explosion of options that would never meet
>>>> everyone's needs.
>>>>
>>>> Building mod_jk just isn't that difficult. The only legitimate 
>>>> complaint that I have heard is that most responsible admins
>>>> don't have a build chain available on a production server. We
>>>> solve that by building on a test server and pushing the
>>>> binaries out to our production servers. Others may do other
>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>> I do know that Debian-based distros of Linux can install the 
>>>> "libapache2-mod-jk" package, though it is often out-of-date
>>>> with respect to the currently-available version. Inexplicably,
>>>> Red Hat does not provide mod_jk binaries through their package
>>>> manager. I'm not sure about Suse and others.
>>>
>>> Understood. I don't know about others, but SuSE DOES provide
>>> mod_jk in their package manager. That's how I installed it. Even
>>> so, it's rarely even close to up-to-date. Usually about a year or
>>> two behind.
> 
>> We had times where we did provide some Linux binaries. Development
>> for mod_jk has slowed down, many distributions contain a reasonable
>> version of it and no one in the team is really interested in
>> providing binaries so it wasn't a priority. It surely is a mixture
>> of time and technical resources but probably even more we don't
>> feel it's an important itch to scratch.
> 
>> I wouldn't oppose if someone stood up and wanted to provide
>> binaries, but it should be someone in our web of trust, because we
>> can't validate binaries we get from outside. So we don't want to
>> officially distribute contributed binaries.
> 
>> If there were such a person, she might happily comeback to your
>> offer concerning build platforms though the ASF has quite a few
>> build servers as well.
> 
> Don't forget about the long internal argument(s) about building on
> untrusted machines, etc. How far does the ASF trust its contributors
> to produce binaries?

That's why I wrote "someone in our web of trust" and "So we don't want
to officially distribute contributed binaries." ;)

Typically our web of trust would mean "committers", but in some
situations it might be a slightly different group.

Regards,

Rainer

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