I'll be happy to mentor, what does it require?. I do have a life besides Wicket/Wicketstuff as Martijn has :)
regards Nino 2009/2/26 Martijn Dashorst <[email protected]> > While I am perfectly capable of working on Wicket in my spare time > without being rewarded, I find it way out of line to characterize the > way I spend my own time as lame when such that doesn't fit the > criteria of anyone. Being characterized as lame because we are engaged > in other things, such as family, preparing Wicket presentations, > building releases, fixing bugs, reading books, playing games, earning > money, eating, sleeping, feeding our children, is utterly uncalled for > (though sleeping might be considered lame). > > Christopher is very capable of writing English prose, so I take that > at face value. It's not that someone with a poor knowledge of English > wrote this. > > Armchair volunteerism is very easy to do: it doesn't cost any time, > and you don't commit yourself to anything. > > If anyone wants to pursue GSoC, they're very welcome to call > themselves Vice President of Wicket Stuff and enlist as Mentor etc. If > any of the other core committers thinks a GSoC is ok, I'm fine with > that too. However, given that we're struggling to get all the bugs > fixed in 1.3.6 and 1.4, I find it hard to believe that anyone will > have the time and energy to do the mentoring as well. I don't have > that time and energy. > > Martijn > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Richard Allen > <[email protected]> wrote: > > The words of C. Bergstrom may have been poorly chosen, but he seems to > have > > the same goal of wanting Wicket to succeed and grow in popularity. > Providing > > harsh responses to users that, despite poor communication, are otherwise > > excited about your project does not help to grow your community or get > > others involved. This is not the first time I've been surprised by the > > harshness of responses from Wicket core committers. I hope these don't > have > > the effect of pushing developers away. > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Jeroen Steenbeeke <j.steenbeeke.ml@ > > gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > >> > Once again it seems a lame excuse to say you're too busy or the > various > >> > other things when this could both give the project good pr and > possibly > >> add > >> > more people who contribute to the framework. > >> > >> I've found that the best way to convince people does not involve > insulting > >> the person you're trying to convince. There is merit to your argument of > >> good PR and possible new contributors, but let's not forget that the > people > >> working on Wicket do so in their spare time - and you know that there > are a > >> lot of things in life that require time. It is fully understandable that > >> what little time the developers have to spend on Wicket, they'd rather > use > >> that time to improve the framework and fix bugs. > >> Mentoring a SoC student takes a considerable amount of time and > >> concentration, and while some students may blossom on their own, a lot > of > >> them need guidance on a regular basis - this requires a massive > investment > >> of spare time that could otherwise have been used for improving Wicket. > A > >> mentor that is only half interested will not be an advantage to the > >> student, > >> and be bad PR rather than good - you need mentors that are willing, > good, > >> know the framework well and have loads of time - the last of which does > not > >> apply to a lot of Wicket Devs. Calling it lame doesn't change anything > >> about > >> it, but it does agitate the developers, which doesn't exactly help your > >> cause. > >> - Jeroen > >> > > > > > > -- > Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com > Apache Wicket 1.3.5 is released > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
