On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote:

> Hi Caty,
>
> I like the current P2. What are the drop-down options for Edit?
>

'Edit' drop-down is for 'Advanced' users and it contains the other edit
modes, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/advancedExpanded.png
For 'Normal' users the 'Edit' is just a button, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/simpleUser.png


>
> My reasoning for hiding Create is that the Create function is a little
> confusing to begin with for new users. If you are used to files and
> folders, it is weird that a file is also a folder (that a node can have
> child nodes that are also documents). This makes sense to me because I am a
> computer science grad, but it isn’t that obvious to long-time Mac/Windows
> users. I would almost want it to be called “Create New Child Page” or
> something, to better indicate what is going to happen when you click that
> button. Except, sometimes, it doesn’t create a new child page, depending on
> the template you choose. In any case, there is no obvious solution, P2
> looks best of the options provided. :)
>

That's another story :)

Thanks,
Caty


>
> Thanks,
> Craig
>
>
> > On Apr 26, 2017, at 4:06 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Craig Wright <crw+xw...@crw.xyz> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Caty,
> >>
> >> I would use the Edit text w/ pencil on Edit and just the plus icon for
> >> Create. The reason is Edit needs to be differentiated from Create, but
> this
> >> is accomplished with the word Edit. On small resolutions (iPhone) I
> think
> >> it is acceptable to hide the word Edit.
> >>
> >
> > I have to disagree here. The purpose is to promote and highlight both
> > important actions and that is both 'Edit' and 'Create'. The 'plus' sign
> can
> > be also confusing for new users. Highlighting just 'Edit' would be hard
> to
> > justify.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The triple-dot icon needs to be a button. P2 has it as a free-floating
> >> icon, P4 has it as a button: it needs to be a button as per P4.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, a better screenshot for P2 is
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> IdeaLabeledActions/P2_noRightPanels.png
> > The symmetric P4 screenshot is
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> IdeaLabeledActions/P4_noRightPanels.png
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> >
> >> Otherwise, looks good!
> >>
> >> Be well,
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Miroslav Galajda <
> >> miroslav.gala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm voting for P2 because it is making the visual style of buttons with
> >>> dropdown menu to look as they should look, with indication of the
> >> dropdown
> >>> menu.
> >>> Secondly, the visual style of the edit page button will keep consistent
> >>> with the buttons for inline section editing.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Miroslav Galajda
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 26 April 2017 at 15:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> vali...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is getting interesting since I know users that like the P2
> version
> >> and
> >>>> actually it was one of the first choices for re-implementation.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess we need more votes to reach a conclusion.
> >>>> Thanks to everyone that is participating,
> >>>> Caty
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Jesse Bright <
> je...@abrightfamily.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> They both look great but I like the look of P4 better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jesse
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> >>>>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We had feedback that new users don't know where to find the 'Edit'
> and
> >>>>>> 'Create' buttons. Also there is some confusions of why we have a
> 'cog'
> >>>>> icon
> >>>>>> that contains actions like 'Delete' and a 'three dots' icon that
> >>>> contain
> >>>>>> other actions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Would be great if you could tell us which version you prefer:
> >>>>>> P2:
> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> >>>> IdeaLabeledActions/
> >>>>> advancedUser.png
> >>>>>> P4:
> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> >>>>> IdeaLabeledActions/P4_1_bigger.png
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Both proposals add backgrounds around the icons, the main difference
> >> is
> >>>>>> that P2 also uses descriptive labels, while P4 keeps the consistency
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> the top icons and a more minimalist style.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For the more actions menu, we want to combine the actions and add
> >>>>> category
> >>>>>> labels, see
> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> >>>> IdeaLabeledActions/
> >>>>> moreActions.png
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you think? Do you have other solutions for your instances?
> Did
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>> encounter the same problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Caty
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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