On Saturday 07 June 2008, Todd Millecam wrote:

>       Changing it from uug-list and newbie-list to uug-list and social-list.

No, no no.

We had something similar to a social list before called uug-free (I believe).  
It failed in its purpose almost immediately.  Often technical topics will go 
off topic into one of the subjects you suggest the social list is for.  It 
happens.  Or people will just post to one list when they should have posted 
to the other.  And getting people to move the conversation to another list is 
almost impossible.

uug-newbie actually worked for a while, but it has died too.

>       The alternative plan, on this, is to do nothing, or drop the newbie
> list altogether.

Drop the newbie list and don't do a social list.  If people start complaining 
about mail traffic, plan a meeting to teach people how to use various 
programs to sort mail and ignore threads.

>       Third:  I want to setup a few tools that are more geared toward the
> social side of the UUG.  This would include public profile pages (that
> hopefully link to your own website/blag), and I'd also like to have a
> page that lists some of the open source projects that people are working
> on, and links to them (like Smug with Andrew).

Good idea, although I don't think the word "social side" is the right term.  
Maybe something like "professional interests".

Other suggestions for the new presidency:

1 - Like I said at the last meeting, have the presidency information on the 
website so people can contact you.

2 - Meet as a presidency often to plan / organize the group.  Sure, email is 
nice, but my past experience is that things just seem to click better when 
the presidency meets in person.

3 - Bring flame wars back.  Until recently, there have really been no flame 
wars on UUG.  I'm bored.  BRING THEM BACK!!!!

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