Look, my name is Inigo Montoya and you're killing me with the lack of Win 7
loving, prepare to die!

 

It's inconceivable that you can't receive updates. You fell victim to one of
the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a
land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go
against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James Carroll
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:40 PM
To: BYU Unix Users Group
Subject: Re: [uug] Win7 loadfeat

 

I agree that would make sense, in fact, when we read that we said exactly
that... what purpose would be served in letting us keep the software but not
letting us update it. However, Microsoft is a company, and I don't trust
them to always make sense. Further, the agreement as quoted by Andrew is for
specifically Windows 7, and if that is what they meant, then that wording
makes NO sense, because although I would like to assume it means what you
think it means, unfortunately if you are right then their English "do no
think it means what you think it means....."

James

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM, David B Darrough <[email protected]>
wrote:

Here is a direct link to the Student Use Agreement directly on Microsoft's
MSDNAA page:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/bb250622.aspx

The wording is slightly different. It says "When you are no longer taking
credit courses in the member school, you may no longer obtain MSDNAA
software. However, you may continue to use previously installed products on
your computer, provided you continue to follow MSDNAA program guidelines".
Microsoft WANTS you to keep your computer up to date. It is done
automatically by the software, not through any action on my part. To not let
you get updates the moment you leave school serves no purpose for Microsoft
and the fact that the updates continue to work like they do for all
Microsoft software seems to bear that out.

I believe when it refers to updates in Andrew's quote below, they are
talking about MSDNAA, not updates to previously downloaded software. In
other words, you can no longer have access to MSDNAA once you are no longer
a student. Again, I would add that the logistical as well as programming
headache that would be involved in creating versions that check if people
are students serve no purpose, especially if it is just for receiving
updates. Doesn't that make common sense? (Insert your joke about Microsoft
not making common sense here....)




> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:uug-list-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew McNabb

> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:05 PM
> To: BYU Unix Users Group
> Subject: Re: [uug] Win7 loadfeat
>

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:53:03PM -0700, David B Darrough wrote:
> > That is incorrect regarding updates. It is a full copy of Windows or
> any of
> > the other software on MSDNAA and you can continue to legally receive
> updates
> > like any other retail customer. It is an excellent deal and
> definitely worth
> > picking up.
>
> On the "Student Use Guidelines" page, under "Usage Guidelines", it
> reads:
>
> "When you are no longer a registered student in a department that is a
> member of the MSDN Academic Alliance, you may no longer receive updates
> for your personal use computer. However, you may continue to use
> previously installed software on your computer, provided you continue
> to
> follow program guidelines."
>
> If Windows Update still works, then this is a really confusing
> statement.
>
> --
> Andrew McNabb
> http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/
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