VACList-Digest Saturday, April 27, 2002 Issue 286
Today's Topics:
1. Re: SS Tow Balls
2. Fw: Aircraft Spruce News
3. Re: SS Tow Balls
4. Re: AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US
5. grey water puzzler
6. Re: SS Tow Balls
7. Re: grey water puzzler
8. Re: SS Tow Balls
9. Nice fabric websites and thank you
10. Re: grey water puzzler
11. Re: AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US
12. Toyota V6 puller
13. Re: Aluminum
14. Re: ater heater
15. Re: SS Tow Balls
16. Re: SS Tow Balls
17. 56 Airstream
18. Re: 56 Airstream
19. new frig
20. Re: new frig
21. Re: new frig
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Message Number: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:04:51 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SS Tow Balls
Pep Boys had the multi-ball systems also but not in SS.
Bob
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From: "Pete Ryner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 4:43 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: SS Tow Balls
> I've tried the stainless tow balls and they work fine but using stainless
> doesn't mean you don't have to lube them. They will still wear if you
> don't. Since I tow several types of trailers, I started using a convert a
> ball. It is stainless with a 10,000 capacity and I can change ball sizes
in
> about 10 seconds. JC Whitney used to carry them, but I didn't find them
in
> the catalog I have now. I've also seen them at marine stores. Not that
> pricey - about $45, but with 3 ball sizes I think it is a bargain. I have
> seen them at shows both rv and marine, but they normally want about $75
for
> a set.
> Pete
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Message Number: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:11:57 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: Aircraft Spruce News
Any of you within commuting distance who need anything from Aircraft Spruce
Co might want to check out their sale in the Griffin, GA store the weekend
of May 11. See below.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 17:58
Subject: Aircraft Spruce News
> Attn: Aircraft Spruce Georgia Customers
>
> Aircraft Spruce Announces East Super Sale May 11th, 2002, Griffin GA.
>
> Everything goes on sale at the Third Annual Aircraft Spruce East Super
Sale
> scheduled for Saturday May 11th 9AM to 3PM. All 30,000 products in our
> product line are available at the years lowest prices. There is no better
> time to purchase avionics, instruments, headsets and intercoms, airframe
> and engine parts, hardware, construction materials, pilot supplies.....and
> everything else that will keep you flying.
>
> Manufacturers representatives from Sennheiser Electronics, Concorde
> Batteries, Skytronics Aerolite Harnesses and Jasco Alternators will be on
> hand to answer questions and demo products. A number of special
> manufacturer promos will be available only at the Girffin Store on that
> day.
>
> We will be beefing up our sales staff to make sure customers get in and
out
> in a timely fashion and we will be beefing up the Bar-B-Que around noon.
> We'll have Free Spruce Dogs and refreshments for all present.
>
> Come in and sign up for our free raffle. We'll raffle off thousands of
> dollars of products. Prizes include a Garmin GPS, Sennheiser and
Lightspeed
> headsets, Icom radios, Skytronics Ignition Harness, Gift Certificates and
> more... No purchase is necessary, all you have to do is come in.
>
> Aircraft Spruce East is located 30 miles south of Atlanta at 900 S. Pine
> Hill Rd in Griffin, GA. Call 800-831-2949 for info and directions.
> Customers can also fly into Griffin Spalding Airport. We'll have free
> shuttle service from the airport to our door during sale hours. Sale
prices
> are applicable to on-site sales only.
>
> We want to thank our valued customers for your continued support. Feel
free
> to contact us at any time to let us know how we can better serve your
> needs.
>
> We thank you for your reception of this Aircraft Spruce News Blast. If you
> do not wish to receive future Aircraft Spruce News you can remove yourself
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> This will automatically remove you from future mailings.
>
> We look forward to seeing you at the Super Sale Saturday May 11th.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Co.
> Griffin, GA
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com
>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:33:50 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SS Tow Balls
Why don't you have to grease it ?
Daisy
My Airstream wrote:
>
> While searching for a tow ball (2" with a 3/4" shank) I came across an
> unusual item at Pep Boys. It was a solid stainless steel tow ball.
> Unfortunately there was only one on the shelf and it was the wrong size. So
> I made the inquiry at they're parts department and found out some good
> stuff.
>
> The company making the SS tow balls is call "Bully" and they are owned by
> Reese! Pep Boys has just picked up the line and will all sizes for sale in
> one or two weeks. They also carry SS Bully/Reese hitch arms. The balls are
> pricey, averaging over $30 each, but it's better than having to smear grease
> over and cover with a Dixie cup.
>
> Bob
> Oceanside, CA
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Message Number: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:36:41 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US
I am very sorry for calling Evan an "idiot" after he so thoughtfully
announced his intention to (once again) profit by registering the Airstream
name on the internet. My old fashioned way of thinking is that only the
owner of the tradename should be able to register the domain.
Sorry Evan, Tom and all VAC list members.
Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside.
> Ewan wrote:
> Hi Everybody - I hope I don't get shot for posting this...
> As some of the folk here will know, I'm a bit of a collector
> of internet domain names, and I have got in my possession
> at the moment the names AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US.
> I've just put them up for auction on eBay,
PS: What if the high bidder is another brand of RV whose "airstream" is
more efficient as demonstrated in wind tunnel tests. It is quite easy to
convert a brand name into a generic word.
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Message Number: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 17:41:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cathleen Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: grey water puzzler
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I am so thrilled to be cleaning and learning the systems in my new 1977 Argosy Minuet,
(20 ft.) But I have a problem.... When the grey tank dump valve is closed and the
tub stopper is in the shower, the kitchen & bathroom sink drain quickly into the gre
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Message Number: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:09:16 -0400
From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SS Tow Balls
Bob,
I'd want it in writing from "Bully" that greasing a SS hitch ball is
unnecessary. From what I've seen, galling is worse with SS than with
regular steel, and that's why you grease a hitch ball. Galling leads to
siezing, siezing leads to bending, and bending leads to breakage.
I hate handling that greasy, grubby thing, but figure it's part of the
price I pay. When I unhitch, I generally unplug the ball mount, stick it
back into the hitch, and swing the "stinger" to the side so I don't bash
my shins on it. If I'm *real* careful, I don't even get my hands dirty.
(usually)
<<Jim>>
My Airstream wrote:
> While searching for a tow ball (2" with a 3/4" shank) I came across an
> unusual item at Pep Boys. It was a solid stainless steel tow ball.
> Unfortunately there was only one on the shelf and it was the wrong size. So
> I made the inquiry at they're parts department and found out some good
> stuff.
>
> The company making the SS tow balls is call "Bully" and they are owned by
> Reese! Pep Boys has just picked up the line and will all sizes for sale in
> one or two weeks. They also carry SS Bully/Reese hitch arms. The balls are
> pricey, averaging over $30 each, but it's better than having to smear grease
> over and cover with a Dixie cup.
>
> Bob
> Oceanside, CA
>
>
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:12:11 -0400
From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grey water puzzler
Cathleen,
I'd look at the vent tube(s) to be sure it's not plugged. The vent
terminates at one ore more of those stacks coming out of your roof.
<<Jim>>
Cathleen Day wrote:
> I am so thrilled to be cleaning and learning the systems in my new 1977
> Argosy Minuet, (20 ft.) But I have a problem.... When the grey tank
> dump valve is closed and the tub stopper is in the shower, the kitchen &
> bathroom sink drain quickly into the grey tank. If I take out the tub
> stopper in the shower, the bathroom sink & the kitchen sink back up and
> that water percolates up thru the shower drain. When I open the grey
> tank dump valve, the shower, kitchen, &bathroom sinks drain quickly. I'm
> baffled! Got any ideas??? THANKS!
>
>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 18:13:39 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SS Tow Balls
Sorry if I implied that no lubrication was necessary. A thin coat of
silicone grease will keep it lubed and rust is not nearly the problem as
with common steel. Whenever I can afford to buy an item made from stainless
or aluminum I will do it.
Bob
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Message Number: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 19:29:38 -0700
From: Beth Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nice fabric websites and thank you
Tim:
Here are some sources for vintage fabric styles/patterns I've found through
VAC members and on airstream owner websites; hope it is helpful. You'll
find everyone here is very generous with advice--you might also look up some
similar posts on DIY re-upholstery on Tom's archives as that is highly
useful too.
http://www.melinamade.com/
http://www.reprodepotfabrics.com/
http://www.garymanco.com/shower_curtain_plain.html
Thanks to everyone who provided advice on "sealant, plasticoat, Walbernize"
etc. for our current polishing job...any last words before we make a
decision?
Thanks!
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Message Number: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:16:18 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with new upholstry (how to?)
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Beth Browning
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:33:47 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grey water puzzler
At 17:41 04/26/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I am so thrilled to be cleaning and learning the systems in my new 1977
>Argosy Minuet, (20 ft.) But I have a problem.... When the grey tank dump
>valve is closed and the tub stopper is in the shower, the kitchen &
>bathroom sink drain quickly into the grey tank. If I take out the tub
>stopper in the shower, the bathroom sink & the kitchen sink back up and
>that water percolates up thru the shower drain. When I open the grey tank
>dump valve, the shower, kitchen, &bathroom sinks drain quickly. I'm
>baffled! Got any ideas??? THANKS!
. .
Sounds to me like the grey water tank vent is blocked so it needs the dump
valve open in order to allow "passing gas" (displaced air by the incoming
grey water) so water can flow. With the dump valved closed it is probably
trying to vent back through the other drains.
Mitch Hill - WA1YKN / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960
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Message Number: 11
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 18:56:28 -0700
From: Paul Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AIRSTREAM.US and AIRSTREAMS.US
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From:
"My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Bob,
Paul here, I also use an airstream domain as you use the word in your
"handle".
Ewan with a W has done more volunteer work for this list and others than most
of us combined. It is a result of his efforts that you are able to get so many
diversified answers to your questions. It is also, I suppose, your
prerogative to publicly bash the guy (and I might add needlessly). This list
is really for sharing ideas and so Ewan may have been better off putting it in
a classified (he did) and letting it run it's course.
In closing I'd like to give you Kudos for asking questions that almost always
provoke a good chain of answers. I guess the diversity is what makes this
group work.
Thanks for reading.
Paul
#2580
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<br>Paul here, I also use an airstream domain as you use the word
in your "handle".
<br>Ewan with a W has done more volunteer work for this list and others
than most of us combined. It is a result of his efforts that you
are able to get so many diversified answers to your questions. It
is also, I suppose, your prerogative to publicly bash the guy
(and I might add needlessly). This list is really for sharing
ideas and so Ewan may have been better off putting it in a classified (he
did) and letting it run it's course.
<br>In closing I'd like to give you Kudos for asking questions that almost
always provoke a good chain of answers. I guess the diversity is
what makes this group work.
<br>Thanks for reading.
<br>Paul
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Message Number: 12
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 22:32:58 -0400
From: "Robert P. Connors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Toyota V6 puller
I used an Easy-Lift with 750# bars and a single sway control. My speed
then (as now) was 60 MPH. I got about 18 MPG when not towing and 12 MPG
when towing. I now have a 2001 Ford F150 4WD Extended Cab 5.4 V8 with
the same hitch and a '73 25' TradeWind, tows MUCH better and gets almost
the same mileage (11 mpg) when towing. The '63 was a single axle and
tended to bounce around a lot. It also was equipped with 700*15 truck
tires, which didn't help its ride. The Toyota was a fine truck; I put
140k miles on it, only problem was that maintenance and repairs were
high priced. Seems like every time I went to the dealer for routine
service it cost big bucks. The Ford rides much better (no off road
package!) and is rated to haul 7200#, while the Toyota was rated for
3500# and rode so hard that you could not drink coffee on the
expressway. I used it to tow because I already had it and did not want
to trade yet, but I certainly would not recommend buying one with towing
in mind. Spend your money on a full sized truck - if you like Toyotas,
buy their full sized V8, not the mini truck.
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Message Number: 13
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:43:29 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aluminum
Thomas wrote:
>
> That really surprises me since they just replaced part of my belly pan less
> then 2 weeks ago on my 1978 A/S...is the belly pan of a '62 that much
> different? Do you remember who you talked to?
I just talked to someone in the parts department. When I said 1962 she said
"no". I don't know how the two years would compare but I'm sure someone
does. I think I'll try Jeff, Gerald and Scott's recomendations and look for
something close in thickness and close to home. Thanks.
Dick
1962 Bambi
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Message Number: 14
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:48:03 -0500
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ater heater
Jim wrote:
> I can direct you to some
>> sources for good prices on a new one if you decide to go that way.
Tell me more!
Dick Parins
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Message Number: 15
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 21:29:54 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SS Tow Balls
Keep in mind lubricating the hitch ball is also a large part of the lubricant
the hitch coupler gets.
Charlie
My Airstream wrote:
> Sorry if I implied that no lubrication was necessary. A thin coat of
> silicone grease will keep it lubed and rust is not nearly the problem as
> with common steel. Whenever I can afford to buy an item made from stainless
> or aluminum I will do it.
> Bob
>
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Message Number: 16
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 20:58:36 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SS Tow Balls
Most of the time my trailer has a well lubed locking ball in it's hitch for
security. Most of the time my vehicle is not pulling anything but the ball
is exposed so a lightly lubricated SS ball is better than a rusty ball. I
only brought the SS ball to VAC attention because I like SS and I don't like
rust.
Bob Kiger
Oceanside, CA
1966 Safari
> Keep in mind lubricating the hitch ball is also a large part of the
lubricant
> the hitch coupler gets.
>
> Charlie
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Message Number: 17
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 22:05:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Johm O'Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 56 Airstream
I'm looking at a 24' 1956 Airstream trailer. Don't
know the model. There are many things that I don't
understand about this trailer. There is an "added on"
holding tank that I'm not sure what it replaced. There
are "tail wheels" added on that I guess are there to
protect the holding tank that hangs 6" lower than the
belly pan and what appears to be an equalizer hitch
made of 1 1/4 inch steel that completely covers the
bottom of entire hitch triangle. It must weigh 200
lbs. The belly pan is torn, for about 30", along each
frame member starting at the hitch triangle.There are
two belly pan "formers" on each side in the front that
have "pushed thru" the skin. Does this indicate a
problem or is this just "normal" for an older trailer.
I know nothing about Airstreams except that I have
about decided to buy and renovate this one. Unless one
of you guys scares me out of it.
I have photographs if anyone wishes to look at any of
the areas that I have noted.
J O H N
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Message Number: 18
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:23:26 -0700
From: "Brad Norgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 56 Airstream
John - Send me the photos off list and I would be happy to look them over.
We'll see what we come up with.
Brad
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm looking at a 24' 1956 Airstream trailer. Don't
> know the model. There are many things that I don't
> understand about this trailer. There is an "added on"
> holding tank that I'm not sure what it replaced. There
> are "tail wheels" added on that I guess are there to
> protect the holding tank that hangs 6" lower than the
> belly pan and what appears to be an equalizer hitch
> made of 1 1/4 inch steel that completely covers the
> bottom of entire hitch triangle. It must weigh 200
> lbs. The belly pan is torn, for about 30", along each
> frame member starting at the hitch triangle.There are
> two belly pan "formers" on each side in the front that
> have "pushed thru" the skin. Does this indicate a
> problem or is this just "normal" for an older trailer.
> I know nothing about Airstreams except that I have
> about decided to buy and renovate this one. Unless one
> of you guys scares me out of it.
> I have photographs if anyone wishes to look at any of
> the areas that I have noted.
> J O H N
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Message Number: 19
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:48:42 -0400
From: Bob Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new frig
Hi All,
I have to get a new refrigerator. I can pick either a Dometic or a
Norcold. Does anyone on the list know if one is better than the other?
Bob Patterson
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Message Number: 20
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 15:30:56 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: new frig
Bob. They are about equal as you can get, as far as performance is concerned.
However, usually a Dometic will come closer to replacing a Dometic
dimensionally, than a Norcold. So if you choose a Norcold, usually there is a
lot of cabinet work to do. Andy
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Message Number: 21
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 17:08:32 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new frig
Bob, Airstream used Dometic. What model year is your coach? Mine in a 1968
model and only Dometic makes a replacement the correct size to fit in the
space the dead fridge came from. Yours may have the same limitation.
Some people suggested having the old fridge repaired (replace the cooling
part) with a rebuilt part. The inside of the old one was not in good
shape -- cracked plastic, broken freezer door hinge, etc. -- but my wife
said it was ugly and she wasn't using it. So much for that alternative. ;-)
Shop around for prices. The list price for the Dometic 2510-2 that I bought
and installed is $995. I bought a new in the crate one locally for $725.
Still pricey but not quite so bad.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:48
Subject: [VAC] new frig
> Hi All,
> I have to get a new refrigerator. I can pick either a Dometic or a
> Norcold. Does anyone on the list know if one is better than the other?
> Bob Patterson
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