Jon, Sometimes the line between ridicule and joking gets kinda blurry (at least from the recipient's point of view, despite the plethora of smiley-winkeys).
We do disagree on several points, but let's both avoid insisting that we are 'right' and the other view is 'wrong.' If you can live with that, so can I (and the list will be happier, I think). So Truce? Regards, Terry (aka 'dude') ;-} ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "velocity-dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: Re: ToolLoader tool > on 5/19/02 1:22 PM, "Terry Steichen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It would be nice to see a simple, informative, non-ridicule comment from > > you. > > Lighten up dude...I was more joking with you than anything. Maybe you missed > the plethora of ;-) > > > 1) Your assertion that I agree with you reflects something other than my > > views. (Hint1: what do you call it when someone declares they know what I > > believe when that is at odds with what I actually do believe? Hint2: It > > starts with an 'A'. ) > > Huh? > > > 2) Regarding RAD, the advantage of making a change in the template and > > running the change immediately is much faster than a recompile and > > restarting the servlet container. (The ratio, for Tomcat, is about 15:1, all > > things considered.) > > Eh? Your reference to RAD had nothing to do with recompiling templates. > > > 3) Absolute trust in the developer and absolute distrust for the designer > > isn't 'reality world'. (I have another term for it, but won't engage in the > > ridicule I object to.) > > Eh? I never said anything about 'absolute distrust'. > > What I was referring to was the fact that most designers don't give a rats > ass about coding and like Tim said, the designer is going to balk at an > extra confusing line of VTL every time they want to use a tool. > > I simply dispelled your points of justification for doing things the wrong > way and you are getting all pissy about it. > > > 4) If your statement is true that appropriate code reuse is only achievable > > by use of JSP, we're really in trouble. (But I don't buy it at all.) > > Eh? Where did you get that statement from? > > > 5) I admit to not knowing much about Turbine - For nearly a year I have been > > using a different framework (with Velocity) that works great so I've had > > little reason to learn about yet another one. Far from trying to 're-invent > > Turbine', I've just been ignoring it. > > See, there is your problem right there...;-) > > -jon > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
