Jon said:
> What needs to be figured out is if you guys are going to re-invent Turbine
> or not. ;-)

nah, i think i'll pass on that.  you Turbine developers seem to do that
enough.   how many active versions are being worked on out there right now?
;-)

seriously though, it's a good point.  we do need to watch that this
vel-tools stuff is built to work with frameworks, not be one.  and i think
we're doing alright with that so far.

Nathan Bubna
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