I'm lost at the issues here. Can someone please summarize the issues or 
point out some stuff in the archives? I'm very confused. I don't see how 
ToolLoader mixes up the model and controller into the view.

I'm only looking at this for the point of using the VelocityViewServlet, 
which I like a lot. This means I don't have to create a class for every 
template file I create. This seems like a big advantage, but Jon seems 
to be implying that part of the VelocityViewServlet -- ToolLoader is 
flawed because it mixes the model and the controller. Plus, it has 
already been done better in Turbine. Third, he also seems to be the 
implying that this is not a Pull method, which I thought it was. I hope 
I've actually summarized Jon's issues. If not, please please feel free 
to correct me.

My questions are:
. What if I don't want to use Turbine? I may want to use Struts or an 
Oracle framework, but I don't want to give up using Pull method with 
Velocity.
. Can some explain why ToolLoader is bad? What is good?
. Isn't this a Pull method?
. If Turbine has indeed done this already, can we refactor functionally 
out so it doesn't depend on Turbine?


Thanks,

Jeff



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