Hi John,

I realise this has made you cross, but I've also been responsible for  
keeping it in the Group here because I think it needs to be aired -  
for various reasons that I've explained before and won't rehash at  
length now.

Lan has actually been the model of restraint and has not written much  
here about it, and has only written in response to questions by other  
people who also think it's something they want to discuss here.

The price of the photograph is actually not really unfair, if you  
look into it.  And it's not just the value of the photograph -  
there's an accepted premium element paid by someone who's used a  
photograph without permission, credit, payment.

As for 1982 prices, they can't really be compared.  Everything has  
shifted so much in the last 35 years, particularly in the media and  
in terms of cost of living and value of the dollar and a whole bunch  
of other things.

Back then Heaven's Gate and Inchon were considered extravagantly  
expensive Hollywood movies, and cost $44 million and $50 million  
respectively, I think.   Heaven's Gate brought down United Artists.   
Spiderman 3 (this year) cost about $260 million, I think.  Plus then  
about the same again in marketing - making it a half billion dollar  
movie.

Also, in 1982 a 2/3 bedroomed row house in a not-particularly-special  
street in West London where I live was worth somewhere between £40k  
and £60k ($80k and $120k).  It's now worth between £550k and £650k  
($1.1m and $1.3m).

So a lot has changed.

But anyway, the value of the photograph is not set by these things,  
it's set by the market - and in a situation like this, $1000 isn't,  
as you said, more than fair.

Hope all this helps to explain :)

Also, for context, read (the whole of - and comments on) Casey  
McKinnon's blog post here:
http://www.caseymckinnon.com/blog/2007/07/10/podtech-needs-more-podtact/

Cheers,
Rupert

On 12 Jul 2007, at 01:53, John Coffey wrote:

Back when 3 Mile Island happened I was in a photo
class and the word on the street was that Time
magazine paid $2000 for their cover shot (in 1982
dollars). Keep your ground Scoble! $1000 more than
fair.
John

--- Robert Scoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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