Hi Scott! Thank you for respond. I will go by parts based in your response:
About the code for the problem and the RAM (sad Mac), I'm thinking the same, but the true I'm very entusiast in all this, because I'm just a 23 years old, so basically, I don't understan all the codes, and even how to identify as well. I think that for the E, but something is not a E, and change to 3, or 2. The 4 never change. Well, one time, came a D if I'm not wrong. About you recommendation, I will clean the RAM too, because all try to take off all the leakage dry from the logic, but I was afraid to broke something. Now I know that you could wash it!!! I will wash with distilled water. About the diagram, investigating I find that my logic board is not for a Classic II, is from a Classic. I know for this image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/damianward/5445723740/in/set-72157625916558539 (the same person from your link). So well, now I know where is the battery, and the polarity. The good one is I have the holder, because was inside the case, with the leaked battery, but detached from the logic. The little contacts from the holder are missing and disintegrated. - But, exactly how I can know where I will solder the contacts? About the floppy, I'm referring to both things. To the floppy itself, because the device is damaged. Someone gift me a Performa 6400 with a working floppy. I change all that, but later came the sad Mac (well, I brought the Classic and never turn on waiting for a floppy to open it, so I don't know if the sad Mac was before). I put the bad floppy again to see if the sad Mac would disappear and yes, I enter to the system saved in the rom (cmd-opt+x+o). The other bad thing, is the hole from the floppy of the Performa don't fit with the Classic case. About the floppy disk with the system: I download a lot of file from the Apple site. English and Spanish (since that is my prior idiom, sorry my english :/ I do my best) and later I install here in Lion stuffit and extract the image. I got some file with .sea and other are image. I go to my dad's XP PC and use rawrite. I have some floppy here in house and I eliminate the format, to get like new, and later with this program I make a floppy disk. Some image say "can't be saved" and other say successfully saved. To this point, really I don't know if I make them good. I make the just about a lot of thing I have read. I wasn't able to get a step by step. I read about HFVExplorer, but I don't understand to much. If you can, and if is not to much: you could explain me some way to make the and test it based in your experience? Oh, and about the value between the Plus and Classic, is just asking in the history of Mac. Of course, I want principally because I love all this of computers, programmers, and is a pretty showpiece for my room. It's not about the monetary value... but very good your explanation. Thanks for all your help, I will appreciate. Regards, Abel. ________________________________ De: Scott Holder <[email protected]> Para: [email protected] Enviado: Sábado, diciembre 31, 2011 4:42 P.M. Asunto: Re: Mac Classic II On 12/30/2011 5:21 PM, Abel Piñate wrote: Hello! > > >First, happy holidays. > > >I have a Classic II with a error. Sometimes turn on and appears a floppy with >the ? symbol. But sometimes appears a sad Mac with the core: 0000000E (up) >00004000 (down). I heard a littles beeps, but maybe is the HD. This error indicates a RAM error. You probably have some bad or marginal RAM in there, or... > >I open a few days ago and I saw the battery liquid for everywhere, and the >place where the battery is hold, was missing. This battery leakage might be causing the problem. First thing is to get this all cleaned up. You can remove the logic board and use a mild soap and something like a toothbrush to get it off, then let it dry for a day or so. Make sure the RAM chips are clean too, as well as the connectors. > >So, basically I need a few thinks, hope someone could help me: >- A diagram or photo of the battery zone to see if I could put it again. You can see an image of the logic board with the battery holder just to the left of the power plug at http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/3409373549_cc611571ec.jpg . If the housing and all that is missing, it'll take some doing to get it back in again. You might have to use an external enclosure and use different batteries to match the voltage, and solder the wires in. > >- Where I can find a floppy for this mac? I tried to put a Performa 6400 >floppy and the hole don't fit, and well, I get a sad Mac. If someone have one >or know about one, please, let me know. If by floppy you mean disk, any floppy disk should work. The Classic II has a Superdrive capable of using HD floppies, which are ubiquitous. The drives are the type that are known as Auto-Inject drives. These have no door flap and are common in the older Macs. You'll need to find one like it for it to work properly, the holes don't line up otherwise. > >- There's a way to save the system in a PC with floppy. I'm looking for the >disk to. You can use something like HFVExplorer on Windows to access Mac HD floppies, as well as rawrite and similar to write raw disk images. My personal preference is to get a Mac emulator of some sort going and use it as a go-between. Really simplifies things and even supports stuff like Ethertalk file sharing. > >OH, and in the history of Apple, wich Mac has most value: Mac Plus or Mac >Classic? I'm thinking to get a Plus to, but maybe sell this one. In general, neither has a lot of monetary value. Classics were sold by the truckload to schools and are pretty readily available. Pluses also sold pretty well and don't have a lot of real rarity unless you're looking at a particularly nice one, maybe in original box with original accessories and such. Beyond that, it depends on if you want one to actually use for something or one to have on your desk as a showpiece. The Mac Plus was the third Mac made, and the first that really hit its stride for capability and expandability (good serial ports, 1 MB of RAM standard, 4 MB max, SCSI, etc). It'll always be remembered that way and might be cool to have around. The Classic, on the other hand, could be thought of as a "Macintosh Plus Plus". It retains pretty much everything about the Plus (including ability to run the first System softwares if you wanted) but adds a Superdrive which greatly eases using with modern PCs, ADB for much greater keyboard and mouse compatibility, a ROM disk boot for fun and diagnostic, and it's supposedly a little faster with a faster SCSI bus too. I've successfully gotten my Classic onto the internet with a SCSI->Ethernet adapter and it's fun. Done some light word processing and such on it. > >Kind regards, > > >Abel. > Hope this helps! Scott -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To leave this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/ -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. 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