Ok, thanks for the information. I'll look. 

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> On May 8, 2016, at 8:35 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, my sound bar has no HDMI input. And it needs one to have it. Also, I 
> have read that if it is arc, on the HDMI it should say Ark on the TV as in 
> "HDMI arc" or something like that. We have three or four HDMI ports, and none 
> of them say that. So I therefore I conclude I don't have it. Even if the TV 
> had it, the sound bar not having it is a dealbreaker. Or so I understand.
> Mary
> 
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>> On May 8, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary. How did you find out your tv didn't have this arc audio? Just 
>> curious. 
>> 
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>>> On May 8, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, having done some googling and some more reading, I suspect the 
>>> problem is that my sound bar and the TV as well are not equipped with 
>>> something called arc, audio return channel. Bad news.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>> On May 8, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Mary. I'll look for it. I'm hoping for an update for the tvos that 
>>>> will fix it as I will have to wait until someone who has vision to look 
>>>> for the setting. 
>>>> 
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>>>>> On May 8, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>>>> I have no idea how you would find that energy saver, since we apparently 
>>>>> don't have one. Our TV is seven years old. It does have an Internet 
>>>>> connection. But it certainly isn't up to modern standards I'm sure.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On May 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Mary.
>>>>>> I'm using Boaz speakers. It's not surround sound... They're actually the 
>>>>>> speakers I used with my computer and other systems. How would I find the 
>>>>>> energy saver in the menus I wonder? How old is your tv? Asking because 
>>>>>> if you don't have the energy saver, I may not either. (Smile) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenifer Barr
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>>>>>>> On May 7, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>>>>>> I assume you are using a sound bar of some kind. What kind if you don't 
>>>>>>> mind my asking? Someone on another list of suggested that they had a 
>>>>>>> similar problem with a surround sound receiver that they were 
>>>>>>> controlling from a computer. On their computer, they were able to 
>>>>>>> disablesome kind of energy saving on their HDMI port to which the sound 
>>>>>>> source was connected. That solves the problem. I had my cited husband 
>>>>>>> looked all through the menus on our TV, and there does not seem to be 
>>>>>>> anyway to disable any sort of energy thing on anything on that TV. So I 
>>>>>>> would like to hear what set ups people have who are not experiencing 
>>>>>>> this cut out thing.
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> On May 7, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Mary.
>>>>>>>> I am experiencing the same thing. I hope this is resolved soon! 
>>>>>>>> (Smile) 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jenifer Barr
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>>>>>>>>> On May 7, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have a new Apple TV four. When Apple TV is connected via HDMI to 
>>>>>>>>> our TV set and the audio goes to the TV speakers, which are awful, 
>>>>>>>>> there is no problem with voiceover. When the sound bar that we have 
>>>>>>>>> is connected to the TV via digital optical cable, and there is audio 
>>>>>>>>> coming through it on a more or less steady basis, such as when 
>>>>>>>>> playing the TV show or something from Apple Music, and you Errol 
>>>>>>>>> around or use the remote and here voiceover, there is also no 
>>>>>>>>> problem. It does not cut out. When, however, there is no audio  
>>>>>>>>> except for voiceover, there is a  cut out problem. You can use the 
>>>>>>>>> remote or arrow around with a Bluetooth keyboard, and the first 
>>>>>>>>> several syllables or words are missed. So there is some kind of delay 
>>>>>>>>> happening somewhere apparently within the sound bar, which causes the 
>>>>>>>>> first few syllables of voiceover to be missed when audio isn't 
>>>>>>>>> already being played. I hope that made sense. I had this problem 
>>>>>>>>> before with a second generation TV and surround sound system, where 
>>>>>>>>> things were going through an AV receiver and the same problem 
>>>>>>>>> happened. What is it with this audio cut out thing? How are people 
>>>>>>>>> getting around this? My sound bar is klipsch, supposed to be a good 
>>>>>>>>> one. We try this on a different older TV, and the same thing happen. 
>>>>>>>>> So it's not something with our TV outputs. I would say it is the 
>>>>>>>>> sound bar, except I had the same problem before I'll be at with an 
>>>>>>>>> older AppleTV.
>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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