Hi Sieghard,
I am not the best person to answer that question. I found about this arc by 
googling HDMI pass-through, because somebody had said, actually I think more 
than one somebody, that having HDMI pass-through would probably solve my 
problem. Having never heard of HDM I passed through, I'm having no idea that a 
sound bar might have an HDMI input, I learned some stuff. But precisely how it 
all works, I still don't understand. It has to do with the audio somehow 
getting back to the TV. And it has to do with making sure the full surround 
signal gets out to the sound bar. But like I say, I really don't pretend to 
understand it exactly. I do know that the old receiver we had did not have this 
HDMI return, so we do have common links between the problem now and the problem 
with the older TV. That is to say, no HDMI return in either case, and relying 
on optical output in both cases. Different speaker set ups completely as you 
might imagine, since the older set had surround, and this is just a sound bar 
with the TV. So, it is just a guess, but it seems to fit my circumstances. 
Sorry for the lousy answer.
Mary


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> On May 8, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> What is this audio return channel supposed to do?
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 5:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Choppy voiceover with Apple TV
>  
> Well, my sound bar has no HDMI input. And it needs one to have it. Also, I 
> have read that if it is arc, on the HDMI it should say Ark on the TV as in 
> "HDMI arc" or something like that. We have three or four HDMI ports, and none 
> of them say that. So I therefore I conclude I don't have it. Even if the TV 
> had it, the sound bar not having it is a dealbreaker. Or so I understand.
> Mary
> 
> 
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> 
> On May 8, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary. How did you find out your tv didn't have this arc audio? Just 
> curious. 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
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> 
> On May 8, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, having done some googling and some more reading, I suspect the problem 
> is that my sound bar and the TV as well are not equipped with something 
> called arc, audio return channel. Bad news.
> Mary
> 
> 
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> 
> On May 8, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mary. I'll look for it. I'm hoping for an update for the tvos that 
> will fix it as I will have to wait until someone who has vision to look for 
> the setting. 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
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> 
> On May 8, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
> I have no idea how you would find that energy saver, since we apparently 
> don't have one. Our TV is seven years old. It does have an Internet 
> connection. But it certainly isn't up to modern standards I'm sure.
> Mary
> 
> 
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> On May 8, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary.
> I'm using Boaz speakers. It's not surround sound... They're actually the 
> speakers I used with my computer and other systems. How would I find the 
> energy saver in the menus I wonder? How old is your tv? Asking because if you 
> don't have the energy saver, I may not either. (Smile) 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
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> 
> On May 7, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennifer,
> I assume you are using a sound bar of some kind. What kind if you don't mind 
> my asking? Someone on another list of suggested that they had a similar 
> problem with a surround sound receiver that they were controlling from a 
> computer. On their computer, they were able to disablesome kind of energy 
> saving on their HDMI port to which the sound source was connected. That 
> solves the problem. I had my cited husband looked all through the menus on 
> our TV, and there does not seem to be anyway to disable any sort of energy 
> thing on anything on that TV. So I would like to hear what set ups people 
> have who are not experiencing this cut out thing.
> Mary
> 
> 
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> 
> On May 7, 2016, at 6:44 PM, Jenifer Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary.
> I am experiencing the same thing. I hope this is resolved soon! (Smile) 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Jenifer571 on dice world
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 7, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have a new Apple TV four. When Apple TV is connected via HDMI to our TV set 
> and the audio goes to the TV speakers, which are awful, there is no problem 
> with voiceover. When the sound bar that we have is connected to the TV via 
> digital optical cable, and there is audio coming through it on a more or less 
> steady basis, such as when playing the TV show or something from Apple Music, 
> and you Errol around or use the remote and here voiceover, there is also no 
> problem. It does not cut out. When, however, there is no audio  except for 
> voiceover, there is a  cut out problem. You can use the remote or arrow 
> around with a Bluetooth keyboard, and the first several syllables or words 
> are missed. So there is some kind of delay happening somewhere apparently 
> within the sound bar, which causes the first few syllables of voiceover to be 
> missed when audio isn't already being played. I hope that made sense. I had 
> this problem before with a second generation TV and surround sound system, 
> where things were going through an AV receiver and the same problem happened. 
> What is it with this audio cut out thing? How are people getting around this? 
> My sound bar is klipsch, supposed to be a good one. We try this on a 
> different older TV, and the same thing happen. So it's not something with our 
> TV outputs. I would say it is the sound bar, except I had the same problem 
> before I'll be at with an older AppleTV.
> Mary
> 
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