I think you're terms are correct. I also tend to use the terms exactly the way Raul does as well. I think to summarize:
accessible: conforms to accessibility standards usable: with familiarity, work arounds and so on, the applications can be used although it's not technically accessible usability: easy to use, due to accessibility, layout, intuitiveness and so on On 11/09/12 19:40, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: > I very much like the distinction between accessible and usable. I'm not sure > I use the 2 correctly or in conformity with how most people use the terms. > I'd like to learn to conform with general usage. > > Accessible, to me, means that VoiceOver is largely if not completely enabled > on an app or in software. There may be varying degrees of accessibility, from > none, to low, to moderate to high to complete. > > Usability, to me, means an app or software may be fully accessible, but > usability can be low, due to a non-intuitive layout or tab sequencing or > something else. > > Is my understanding of the terms accessible and usable above accurate in > terms of common usage? If not, I'd appreciate clarification. > > Thanks. Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Accessible VS Usable -- Was Re: [Maccessibility] Google Releases > Official YouTube App > > I think this boils down to accessible verses usable. Some feel that if > an app doesn't conform 100% to Voice Over standards then it's not > accessible. Others feel that if they can use the app with minimal fuss, > then it's accessible. Then comes that grey area of defining what is > minimal fuss. > > For example, I would term the downcast app as both accessible and > usable. Yet the Netflix app is just usable to me while not being very > accessible. This is because I have to do things in a certain way in > Netflix app to get what I want and sometimes that's not very convenient. > The reason the things have to be done are due to their lack of > accessibility features. > > Now an app like Google Places isn't either accessible or usable to me. > This is because it shows unlabeled buttons in many areas and sometimes > the labels work and sometimes they do not. This is how it was last year > when I tried it out anyway. If things have changed I can revisit the app > and see what's up with it. However when all I hear is button button > button button for things I want to do, it doesn't sound like it's very > usable or accessible to me. > > Lastly, an app like MotionX GPS Drive is considered accessible, but I > don't find it very useful. Whether it's because of my mode of thinking > or because I'm used to Navigon I don't know. I just can't get myself to > like it. I gave it a fair try during the free trial of the voice > guidance and found it to be clunky at best when trying to find a > destination or to cancel a route or to do other things which I find easy > with Navigon. The only thing it had going for it is that it loaded > faster than Navigon. > > So, there's my usable cents on accessibility. > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > The best time to make friends is before you need them. ~ Ether Barrymore > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 > > On 9/11/2012 12:22 PM, Scott Davert wrote: >> Hmm. From what I've been reading on AppleVis, it is accessible, but >> not in the conventional method. Which begs the question of what >> defines accessibility? is something not accessible if you cannot >> accessit using the standard functions of your screen reader? As I >> understand it, the Sign in process can work without disabling >> VoiceOver. Essentially, the app is divided in to columns, and the >> standard flicking left and right gesture does not work. However, if >> you touch the screen in the appropriate place, VoiceOver is able to >> give the info to you. But to get to the other column on the screen, >> you have to tap something on the right side of it, and then tap the >> left side to get back to that series of columns. I'll have to play >> around with this when I get the time, but as I understand it, this is >> how it can be done. >> >> Scott > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.