Correct, in the first few betas this “Messages” item on the rotor wasn’t working so well yet so for a while I turned off threaded messages in Mail settings and all messages were separate messages. I’m not sure how to describe it, but while it keeps conversations together and with the rotor turned to Messages it’s super easy to flick up and down browsing through the messages, they are still separate messages and not part of one big message. You can still delete individual messages in a conversation which wouldn’t be possible if they were all lumped into one message.
Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: E-Mail Client Running iOS 10 beta 6 turning it off in mail settings gives me every message as a separate message in a thread/conversation. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: E-Mail Client That doesn't sound very good, unless I'm misunderstanding it. It sounds kind of like what happens when you get a digest. You know, somebody replies to a message that they got as part of a digest and doesn't delete everything. So you get this great long mass. I can't believe that's what they're doing. Sighted people would hate that. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see what the final thing looks like. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi! I believe we misunderstood somewhere along the way xD. I know about threaded view, it is available since iOS 5 or something but this is a threaded view for message list and it can be turned on or off. iOS 10 is bringing several messages grouping in the single conversation as seen in Gmail app which I really don't want and, according to Tamas Geczy's article on CBT site it can't be turned off. Here's the quotation on it: A new threaded view for messages places all of the conversation as though it were one long message. This adds a new rotor option: Message. When it is selected, swiping down with VoiceOver will move you to the next message in the mail document. You can turn off threading, but not the behavior, or having them be organized in one giant e-mail message rather than individual ones in a conversation list within the subject. This might change, as sometimes in-line message replies are not detected by the app — so you have to scroll through older messages with greater than signs. In other cases, a button allows you to expand the older messages. In my experience, this is hit or miss, though with Gmail it recognized that the quoted thread messages should be hidden most of the time S poštovanjem Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> 27.8.2016. u 15:08, Richard Turner je napisao/la: I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10. Richard (Sent from my iPhone 5S) On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi! There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is not separated by message as it was till now. Now it is more like conversation view similar to text and iMessages and there is a new option in rotor called "message" which will enable you to switch between messages in conversation. I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it only for some mail groups I'm subscribed to. S poštovanjem Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> 27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> je napisao/la: What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's interface in iOS 10? Thanks, Ari On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi! @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would probably work on all iOS devices. @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of settings for fine tuning its operativity. I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google Speech Input or whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native language. I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't know did you played with Aquamail settins? @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD. S poštovanjem Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> 26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la: I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two cents. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! <Smiles> It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message. Carol P On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Gordon, I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS mail client. 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