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> On Aug 29, 2016, at 9:17 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Well, I've tried lots of times to work with them but really don't like > threads at all, so I'm going to have to find a way through that keeps it > simple for me. (I don't mind reading messages related to a subject as they > come in a timeline.) I just find threads a bit of a maize really. Does anyone > else feel like I do! > > > Thanks though for the description given. I shall keep that by me and have > another go, this time with my iPhone once I am on IOS10, of course. > > > Carol P - UK > > , > > >> On 29/08/2016 03:50, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hi Richard, >> >> You can delete individual messages although I think when you double tap on a >> thread and the rotor is turned to messages that once you flick to a >> particular message the delete button at the bottom in the middle should just >> delete this message and not prompt you to delete the entire thread. Anyhow, >> here is how you can delete individual messages: >> >> When you are in the Inbox and come to a thread/conversation with several >> messages, don’t double tap on it. Instead with your rotor on “Actions” which >> should be the default, flick down until you get to an item called “Expand >> Thread”. >> Double tap on that and now the thread will expand and all the messages are >> now actually just showing up in whichever mailbox you are in as individual >> messages. They continue to do so until you go back to the first message, >> flick down to “Collapse Thread” and double tap. >> Now you can swipe to any message in the thread, flick up or down to “Delete” >> in the actions rotor and double tap to delete the message you are on. >> >> if you double tap on any of the messages in the thread to open/read it you >> now are back in the conversation and the messages option is there on the >> rotor and you can flick up and down to move through your messages. >> The delete button at the bottom of a message once again prompts you to >> “Trash Messages” which means if you do so all messages/the entire thread >> will be deleted. >> >> I just realized as I am writing this that my phone locked on me and after I >> unlock it it lost focus on where I was in the list and when I scrolled down >> again to the message I tested this on it was still expanded. Also, leaving >> the Mail app and going back to the home screen and then opening mail again >> left it expanded. >> Only when I closed the mail app in the app switcher and then reopened it was >> the thread collapsed again. >> Of course you can always go to the first message of the thread and flick >> down to “Collapse” and double tap to manually collapse the messages back to >> a single entry which contains all the messages of that thread. >> >> It takes a bit of getting used to, but I quite like how Apple has done this >> with the exception of the delete button in an open message, I think that >> should let you delete the individual message you are in as well. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:25 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: E-Mail Client >> >> The only thing I do not like about the new threading method with the message >> item in the rotor, is that if you chose to use threading, and you want to >> delete just 1 message, it deletes the entire thread. At least, when >> experimenting with that feature, I have not found a way to just delete one >> message in a thread, or to delete all but one, however you want to look at >> it. >> Richard >> >> >> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." >> - Satsuki Shibuya >> >> >> (Sent from my iPod 6) >> >> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >> Correct, in the first few betas this “Messages” item on the rotor wasn’t >> working so well yet so for a while I turned off threaded messages in Mail >> settings and all messages were separate messages. I’m not sure how to >> describe it, but while it keeps conversations together and with the rotor >> turned to Messages it’s super easy to flick up and down browsing through the >> messages, they are still separate messages and not part of one big message. >> You can still delete individual messages in a conversation which wouldn’t be >> possible if they were all lumped into one message. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 11:42 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: RE: E-Mail Client >> >> Running iOS 10 beta 6 turning it off in mail settings gives me every message >> as a separate message in a thread/conversation. >> >> Richard >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:30 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: E-Mail Client >> >> That doesn't sound very good, unless I'm misunderstanding it. It sounds kind >> of like what happens when you get a digest. You know, somebody replies to a >> message that they got as part of a digest and doesn't delete everything. So >> you get this great long mass. I can't believe that's what they're doing. >> Sighted people would hate that. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see >> what the final thing looks like. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:24 AM, Gordan Radić >> <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> I believe we misunderstood somewhere along the way xD. >> >> I know about threaded view, it is available since iOS 5 or something but >> this is a threaded view for message list and it can be turned on or off. >> >> iOS 10 is bringing several messages grouping in the single conversation as >> seen in Gmail app which I really don't want and, according to Tamas Geczy's >> article on CBT site it can't be turned off. >> >> Here's the quotation on it: >> >> >> >> A new threaded view for messages places all of the conversation as though it >> were one long message. This adds a new rotor option: Message. When it is >> selected, swiping down with VoiceOver will move you to the next message in >> the mail document. You can turn off threading, but not the behavior, or >> having them be organized in one giant e-mail message rather than individual >> ones in a conversation list within the subject. This might change, as >> sometimes in-line message replies are not detected by the app — so you have >> to scroll through older messages with greater than signs. In other cases, a >> button allows you to expand the older messages. In my experience, this is >> hit or miss, though with Gmail it recognized that the quoted thread messages >> should be hidden most of the time >> >> >> >> S poštovanjem >> Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> >> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> >> >> >> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> >> >> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> >> >> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> >> >> 27.8.2016. u 15:08, Richard Turner je napisao/la: >> >> I believe you will be able to turn off the conversation threading in iOS 10. >> >> Richard >> >> (Sent from my iPhone 5S) >> >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Gordan Radić >> <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> There's an article on the Cool Blind Tech website about what's new in >> incoming iOS 10. Amongst other things, it says message view in Mail app is >> not separated by message as it was till now. Now it is more like >> conversation view similar to text and iMessages and there is a new option in >> rotor called "message" which will enable you to switch between messages in >> conversation. >> >> I'm not sure will I like this or not, I like clean separate messages and >> that's why I don't use Gmail app. I don't even like threads and I'm using it >> only for some mail groups I'm subscribed to. >> >> >> >> S poštovanjem >> Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> >> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> >> >> >> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> >> >> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> >> >> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> >> >> 27.8.2016. u 0:46, englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> >> je napisao/la: >> What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's >> interface in iOS 10? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ari >> >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić >> <razbij...@gmail.com<mailto:razbij...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would >> probably work on all iOS devices. >> >> @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large >> turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I >> used Aquamail on some Android devices and I like its options, features and >> tones of settings for fine tuning its operativity. >> >> I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than >> iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app >> itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google >> Speech Input or whatever is it called in English than Siri Dictation, >> atleast for my native language. >> >> I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't >> know did you played with Aquamail settins? >> >> @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD. >> >> >> >> S poštovanjem >> Gordan Radić<mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> >> <nemoviz_animated.gif><http://www.nemoviz.org> >> >> >> <email.png><mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> >> >> <facebook.png><http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> >> >> <twitter.png><http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> >> >> 26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la: >> >> I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about >> mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the >> mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in >> general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the >> fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get >> that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it >> easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this >> is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may >> differ. But that's my two cents. >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone >> <viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different >> methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select >> and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's >> still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and >> again! <Smiles> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in >> my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a >> keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long >> message. >> >> >> >> >> >> Carol P >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon, >> >> I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am >> curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the >> native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't >> like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large >> quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It >> just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the >> Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić >> <razbij...@gmail.com><mailto:razbij...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi! >> >> >> >> I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? 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