I haven't either, but agree that it is great for those who have it. Best regards,
Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Aira What on earth is wrong with having different options? Just because someone doesn't want to use a particular service or app doesn't mean that it may not benefit many others. Personally, I am amazed at how someone thinks they can tell others what they should or should not purchase and how they should live their lives. I have not yet tried Aira, but I can definitely see cases where it could be quite useful. Pam ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Brandon Olivares [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:33 PM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Aira David, you’re speaking of things you have no idea about. I have Aira and love using it. No I don’t use it to describe a play or something, but quite ordinary things. Could I do these things in other ways? Sometimes yes, but far more inconveniently. It used to take me forever to check the mail. Sure I could use SeeingAi or KNFB Reader, but it takes a long time because they aren’t so great with envelopes. Now I just call up Aira and they have it done for me in just a minute. Or say there’s something I have to do online that’s inaccessible. Should I wait for a sighted person to be around? My wife and I, both visually impaired, live alone. So I could wait sometimes days to see a sighted person that I can ask for help. Why should I? You’ve constructed quite a nice straw man there, but it’s not at all true. Finally, I’m not unemployed, and in fact make quite a bit as a full time programmer. I’m not sure why so many blind people are unemployed, I certainly had no issue finding a job, but of course there are other circumstances. But there are plenty of us who are successful and who can subscribe to Aira, so why shouldn’t we? $199 isn’t so much at the end of the day. Brandon On Jan 27, 2019, at 5:10 PM, David Moore <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Andy, I totally agree as well. How many blind people can afford $200.00 or more a month to get unlimited service to have an entire play at the theater described for them. The people who are so passionate about this service, don’t realize that the blind are 70 percent unemployed. What about those people? I went to the Ohio State University and went everywhere I wanted to go with my good, old cane, and I do so today. Technology is just getting out of hand, I think. It is making some people lazy. Also, why are blind people alone all of the time. I hear so many blind people say that they are alone here and there, and they need this service. I always have people around everywhere I go , practically. How many sighted people go out and roam around alone. Another thing this brings up, is that blind people need to be with sighted people, instead of using a service like this. We are becoming a society where everyone wants to do everything for him or her self, instead of relying on each other. Many cultures would not think of doing so many things alone like we do in the west, and I assume Australia And New Zealand. Mexicans love to live with their extended family. They would not live alone if their life depended on it. Technology like this AIRA, are just causing people to be alone more with their technology. When I ride the bus, I am always talking to people. I do not even want to get on my phone! I love talking to strangers the whole time I am out, , not on a device. Thanks for putting up with my little rant. Sometimes, I think the blind were better off, when they had to get a reader to read everything to them, and they had to remember it or take good Braille notes as the human read to them. New is not always better for people! Have a great one, David Moore Sent from Mail<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C6ecc3c38f08d416c327408d684a76a9c%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C636842251924085504&sdata=bbznAVacgo7GWFOJLdgtP%2BwHzgOT3U6ZHZiUbNtSASo%3D&reserved=0> for Windows 10 From: Andy Baracco<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:19 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Aira I agree! Considering that most blind people are unemployed, and that the average income of blind folks is well below that of those who are not blind, aiRa will only be feasible for a minority of blind people, thus making services like Be My Eyes, and platforms like MS Seeing AI a welcome alternative. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Aira As with most things in life. You get what you pay for... And this isn't meant to denigrate BeMyEyes or the people who volunteer through the service, but keep in mind you're talking about well intentioned people who are still just volunteers at the end of the day. Cristóbal -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Marie Lyons Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:53 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Aira I can only tell you about “Be my eyes” and a difficulty I experienced. A volunteer said, ”over there”. That isn’t very helpful to a blind person. I do know of 2 stores who offer “Aira” for free: Wallgreens and Wegmanns. This is done by using the app on your iPhone. Marie Lyons Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Holly > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello: > > I just joined this group yesterday. I have been following the > discussion concerning Aira. > > I am certain that most of you know about the app 'Be My Eyes', which > is free and essentially operates like Aira, although the sighted > people answering the phones are volunteers, not paid operators. > > I have never had a particular reason to use either app, as am living > with a sighted partner. > > Could anyone tell me how they compare? The paid version seems very > expensive for low income people. > > Thank you, > > Holly > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. 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