David,
I really wish I hadn't opened your message. It is really sad that you believe so little of blind and visually impaired people who do not live life according to your standards. Just because people have family or friends in and out of their homes on a daily basis, it does not mean they should be expected to constantly depend on those individuals for assistance. Sighted individuals have a right to privacy, so do individuals with print disabilities. Have you ever heard of identity theft? Not to smart to ask just anyone to read investment and banking statements. I also have a right not to have those same individuals read medical information. It is my choice when and how I share that information with family and friends. It sounds like you would be totally confortable having a stranger at the bus stop read your prostate test results. Good for you, that is your choice. The rest of us don't have to make friends and family feel like every time they come in our house we need help with something. It is all about choice. Regarding technology "getting out-of-hand," another judgment based on your personal needs without a thought of how this technology could help individuals with multiple disabilities. As a deaf-blind person, Aira has helped me to travel more independently. What totally boggles my mind is for years, blind and visually impaired individuals have struggled for the right to make personal choices. Some of the anger towards the development of technology as Aira, Be My Eyes etc. is quite shocking. Your description of other blind people as lazy is disgusting. There isn't a single sighted person that has seen me use any of these services that couldn't appreciate the independence and freedom of choice attached to the product. Go wave your prostate results at the bus stop for someone to read and leave the rest of us alone that choose a different path than yours. Lynda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Aira Hi Andy, I totally agree as well. How many blind people can afford $200.00 or more a month to get unlimited service to have an entire play at the theater described for them. The people who are so passionate about this service, don’t realize that the blind are 70 percent unemployed. What about those people? I went to the Ohio State University and went everywhere I wanted to go with my good, old cane, and I do so today. Technology is just getting out of hand, I think. It is making some people lazy. Also, why are blind people alone all of the time. I hear so many blind people say that they are alone here and there, and they need this service. I always have people around everywhere I go , practically. How many sighted people go out and roam around alone. Another thing this brings up, is that blind people need to be with sighted people, instead of using a service like this. We are becoming a society where everyone wants to do everything for him or her self, instead of relying on each other. Many cultures would not think of doing so many things alone like we do in the west, and I assume Australia And New Zealand. Mexicans love to live with their extended family. They would not live alone if their life depended on it. Technology like this AIRA, are just causing people to be alone more with their technology. When I ride the bus, I am always talking to people. I do not even want to get on my phone! I love talking to strangers the whole time I am out, , not on a device. Thanks for putting up with my little rant. Sometimes, I think the blind were better off, when they had to get a reader to read everything to them, and they had to remember it or take good Braille notes as the human read to them. New is not always better for people! Have a great one, David Moore Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Aira I agree! Considering that most blind people are unemployed, and that the average income of blind folks is well below that of those who are not blind, aiRa will only be feasible for a minority of blind people, thus making services like Be My Eyes, and platforms like MS Seeing AI a welcome alternative. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" <cristobalm...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Aira As with most things in life. You get what you pay for... And this isn't meant to denigrate BeMyEyes or the people who volunteer through the service, but keep in mind you're talking about well intentioned people who are still just volunteers at the end of the day. Cristóbal -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marie Lyons Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Aira I can only tell you about “Be my eyes” and a difficulty I experienced. A volunteer said, ”over there”. That isn’t very helpful to a blind person. I do know of 2 stores who offer “Aira” for free: Wallgreens and Wegmanns. This is done by using the app on your iPhone. Marie Lyons Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Holly <fe...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hello: > > I just joined this group yesterday. 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