And I wonder who paid for the reader you mentioned who read everything to a blind person. I think something like Aira can be hugely beneficial for somebody who is in a job and while the unemployment among blind people still is very high, more young people who manage to get a good education also find good employment. I own a retail business and while I have employees there are times when I have to get something done and they are busy. I deal with suppliers who in some cases have accessible online order systems and in other cases they don’t and the website is inaccessible. Usually my wife comes to trade shows where I need to go around from place to place to look at products, but sometimes I am there by myself and being able to walk around with an Aira agent telling me what they saw instead of me having to ask 5 people would be nice. You can see it as what you describe and you can just as easily make a case for it as a fantastic advancement which opens many doors to blind people. A good friend of mine in Germany worked for HP for 25 years. Lately he said things are more and more difficult because he is expected to attend all these online meetings where slide shows are shown on the screen and everybody is expected to just follow along. How awesome would it be if he could sit there with a pair of Aira glasses and an agent on the line telling him what was being shown on the computer, who was currently presenting and all that. I grew up in Germany on a farm in an extended family and until I was 13 there was 4 generations living in the house. It’s great and I look back at it fondly, but it’s not always just this harmonic and idyllic scene you seem to think it is. By the way, make sure that all these people you chat up on the bus want to be chatted to, I am a pretty social person myself, I have travelled a lot alone back in the 90’s and until around 2008/2009 which is when I met my wife over in the Philippines and travel then usually consisted of going there, but at times I just want to be left alone.
Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Aira Hi Andy, I totally agree as well. How many blind people can afford $200.00 or more a month to get unlimited service to have an entire play at the theater described for them. The people who are so passionate about this service, don’t realize that the blind are 70 percent unemployed. What about those people? I went to the Ohio State University and went everywhere I wanted to go with my good, old cane, and I do so today. Technology is just getting out of hand, I think. It is making some people lazy. Also, why are blind people alone all of the time. I hear so many blind people say that they are alone here and there, and they need this service. I always have people around everywhere I go , practically. How many sighted people go out and roam around alone. Another thing this brings up, is that blind people need to be with sighted people, instead of using a service like this. We are becoming a society where everyone wants to do everything for him or her self, instead of relying on each other. Many cultures would not think of doing so many things alone like we do in the west, and I assume Australia And New Zealand. Mexicans love to live with their extended family. They would not live alone if their life depended on it. Technology like this AIRA, are just causing people to be alone more with their technology. When I ride the bus, I am always talking to people. I do not even want to get on my phone! I love talking to strangers the whole time I am out, , not on a device. Thanks for putting up with my little rant. Sometimes, I think the blind were better off, when they had to get a reader to read everything to them, and they had to remember it or take good Braille notes as the human read to them. New is not always better for people! Have a great one, David Moore Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Andy Baracco<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:19 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Aira I agree! Considering that most blind people are unemployed, and that the average income of blind folks is well below that of those who are not blind, aiRa will only be feasible for a minority of blind people, thus making services like Be My Eyes, and platforms like MS Seeing AI a welcome alternative. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:05 PM Subject: RE: Aira As with most things in life. You get what you pay for... And this isn't meant to denigrate BeMyEyes or the people who volunteer through the service, but keep in mind you're talking about well intentioned people who are still just volunteers at the end of the day. Cristóbal -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Marie Lyons Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:53 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Aira I can only tell you about “Be my eyes” and a difficulty I experienced. A volunteer said, ”over there”. That isn’t very helpful to a blind person. I do know of 2 stores who offer “Aira” for free: Wallgreens and Wegmanns. This is done by using the app on your iPhone. Marie Lyons Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Holly > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello: > > I just joined this group yesterday. 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