Dwayne, Did you find the place in the VoiceOver braille settings where you can adjust which braille table is being used? And, no one can easily get to the status bar with any keyboard. You just have to touch the screen until they fix it.
Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Duane Steele <duanestee...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Dave. But now that it's done I'm adjusting to it. After all, there'll come a time when we all have to use it. There are bugs and issues, and with the help of folks on this list, I'll work them out. One thing I noticed immediately was that the braille table had automatically gone to UEB braille, and I'm still happier with the standard Us Braille system when writing with my BrailleEdge. It's also harder to just get to the status bar. In fact, with the Braille device, it can't be done, and that's frustrating. I won't turn back the clock. I'll just forge ahead with all the others on this list who have updated their Apple devices. Peace & Blessings, Duane L. Steele Phone (276) 730-5194 On Oct 22, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi You can remove the downloaded update, by going into settings, general, and swiping to iPhone storage. There you will find the iOS 13 update. Just double tap on it, and you will have the option to delete it. It will download again at some point. But just keep deleting it. Dave. From: janet gross Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I never meant to update. Hi Duane and All, Duane you didn’t do anything wrong, as the exact samething happened to me just last Sunday, even though, I have my auto download set to off. When I turned on my XR phone with iOS 12.4.1, the update 13 .1.2 was downloading, and I had no option to cancel. I turned the phone off, and waited, and turned it back on, but still the update was downloading! I was furious! I think this is very unfair that Apple would do this, and as far as I am concerned, this should not be allowed! Although, doesn’t all the updates automatically download, but we have the option to install by accepting the license agreement or not. Hopefully someone will chime in on my question. After the download, a few days later is when I got the first notification to install the update, so I did not accept the license agreement, so it has not installed on my phone. Although, it is still there waiting for me to accept the license agreement, and I have no intentions of updating just yet. Has anyone noticed the size of this update? It is a little over 2 gigs! So next time we think about buying an iPhone, we might have to pay more money to get more space on our phones! If someone doesn’t want the newest update, that should be their right, so please people try and understand some people just don’t ask for trouble! Now, I’m sure Apple had good intentions when releasing an update, but it doesn’t always work that way, and I’m sure Apple knows that! Doesn’t the Apple baiter testers give their findings to Apple before Apple actually releases the update? Doesn’t Apple listen to their baiter testers? When I have a problem with my phone after an update, and I call Apple, they can only give me a workaround if they have one, so the main problem is not corrected! Yes, I know some people might not be experiencing the same phone issues after the update, and that seems to be a little odd! Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Duane Steele Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I never meant to update. Hello iPhone Friends, Some of you reading this note will suppose that perhaps I'd done something wrong in the settings on my iPhone 8. With all the recent flack I'd read and heard about iOS 13, I had decided to wait awhile before updating. I checked my settings to ensure that the automatic update feature had been turned off. 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