> Well, I only know that my phone’s acting very strangely since it decided to 
> update.  I tried to respond last night using the braille input keyboard 
> because my BrailleEddge was not at hand and the phone froze so that I could 
> not even turn it Off.  I had to let it run down.  Even now, it isn’t working 
> well with the device.  The cursor’s doing strange things.  I depend on this 
> phone for everything, and I don’t know when it might freeze again.  Scary

> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Oct 24, 2019, at 1:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have never had an iPhone update itself unless I tapped on “I Agree” at some 
> point. I am pretty sure a lot of people tap it not even checking what they 
> agree to and then they wonder why iOS updated itself.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dave 
> Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
>  
> The same thing happened with my wife’s phone just after iOS 13 was released. 
> All of her updates including iOS updates has been disabled yet she would’ve 
> woke one morning to find that her phone was updated to iOS 13. In fact, this 
> has been going on for her since iOS 9. She has not been able to stop this 
> from happening. And yes. Everything automatic is and has been disabled on her 
> phone. Additionally, a couple of the low vision features that she uses have 
> been broken in iOS 13. You cannot imagine how furious she has been about it.
>  
>  
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, as far as i know. You can't roll back, as apple will have stopped 
> signing the 12.4.1 update.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: terri...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
> 
> Hello Dave,
> Can I uninstall the updates and roll back to 12.4.1?
> Best,
> Terri Hedgpeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
> 
> absolutely.
> 
> If you accidentally tap on the incorrect button, it will update over night.
> 
> I think it's always better, to delete the downloaded update.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
> 
> Hi Josh,
> When I got my first iPhone, and when I got a notification I had an update, I 
> tapped on the later option, and sure enough the phone did download the very 
> next time I turned on my phone!  My point, be very careful if you don't want 
> to update right now, about the later option though.
> Janet
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
> 
> I'll delete my update again.  I think 2 gigs for an update is rather large 
> myself.  I just always go to not now, and remind me later.
> Hopefully, my phone won't update by itself.
> 
> On 10/22/19, janet gross <janet.harv...@outlook.com> wrote:
> > HI Dave,
> > Thank you for this as I just removed it by following your steps.
> > Thank you thank you!
> > Janet
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Dave
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:40 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
> >
> > Hi You can remove the downloaded update, by going into settings,
> > general, and swiping to iPhone storage.
> >
> > There you will find the iOS 13 update. Just double tap on it, and you
> > will have the option to delete it.
> >
> > It will download again at some point. But just keep deleting it.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:16 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
> >
> > Hi Duane and All,
> > Duane you didn’t do anything wrong, as the exact samething happened to
> > me just last Sunday, even though, I have my auto download set to off.
> > When I turned on my XR phone with iOS 12.4.1, the update 13 .1.2 was
> > downloading, and I had no option to cancel.  I turned the phone off,
> > and waited, and turned it back on, but still the update was downloading! 
> > I was furious!
> > I
> > think this is very unfair that Apple would do this, and as far as I am
> > concerned, this should not be allowed!  Although, doesn’t all the
> > updates automatically download, but we have the option to install by
> > accepting the license agreement or not.  Hopefully someone will chime in 
> > on my question.
> > After the download, a few days later is when I got the first
> > notification to install the update, so I did not accept the license
> > agreement, so it has not installed on my phone.  Although, it is still
> > there waiting for me to accept the license agreement, and I have no
> > intentions of updating just yet.  Has anyone noticed the size of this
> > update? It is a little over 2 gigs!  So next time we think about
> > buying an iPhone, we might have to pay more money to get more space on
> > our phones!  If someone doesn’t want the newest update, that should be
> > their right, so please people try and understand some people just
> > don’t ask for trouble!  Now, I’m sure Apple had good intentions when
> > releasing an update, but it doesn’t always work that way, and I’m sure
> > Apple knows that!  Doesn’t the Apple baiter testers give their
> > findings to Apple before Apple actually releases the update? Doesn’t
> > Apple listen to their baiter testers? When I have a problem with my
> > phone after an update, and I call Apple, they can only give me a
> > workaround if they have one, so the main problem is not corrected!
> > Yes, I know some people might not be experiencing the same phone
> > issues after the update, and that seems to be a little odd!
> > Janet
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Duane Steele
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:35 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: I never meant to update.
> >
> >
> > Hello iPhone Friends,
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of you reading this note will suppose that perhaps I'd done
> > something wrong in the settings on my iPhone 8.  With all the recent
> > flack I'd read and heard about iOS 13, I had decided to wait awhile
> > before updating.  I checked my settings to ensure that the automatic
> > update feature had been turned off.  You can now guess where this is
> > going.  I awoke this morning and looked at the time on my iPhone and
> > discovered it had updated overnight without my consent.  I can only
> > imagine that, given today's rapid advances in artificial intelligence,
> > my phone made its own decision, and now, I'm stuck with having to
> > reorient myself to lots of new features I don't know anything about.
> > Is there a reasonable explanation for why this would have happened.
> > Well, now I'll take up the challenge and learn to adapt to the update.
> > But I have to wonder why I had no choice.
> >
> >
> >
> > Peace & Blessings,
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