I have Filed pages and pages of detailed feedback in the past. I have not aired 
at that end.

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> On Sep 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you don't like what beta testers do and test with and go through as far as 
> huge bugs, then test yourself. Be a part of the solution next time then. 
> Apple *said* that they want people testing these betas. I can't speak for the 
> programmers, but I don't use dictation much myself. I use a braille display 
> or braille screen input. If you had been testing, and if you had filed 
> feedback, maybe it'd be better by now.
> Devin Prater
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>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 7:42 AM deidre muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I’m never one eager to update. I know that some here feel that the security 
>> patches are very important and so they always make sure that they update. 
>> However these little bugs that people continue to report, and the things 
>> that never get repaired, that were not broken before, totally cause me to be 
>> discouraged about where the heads are at around the programmers and the beta 
>> testers that do this work on all our behalf. Minor structural changes happen 
>> over the years, Things like they give the tabs different names, and then 
>> they put the positioning of things such as delete versus remove in different 
>> places or substitute them, or cause you to have to use different gestures to 
>> remove a particular mail from a list of threaded emailsWhen it was so easy 
>> to do before, at least with voiceover. Who do these minor changes  benefit 
>> when other things could be corrected, such as things in the rotor… what 
>> about the inability to select text using the line feature? for those of us 
>> using dictation, and not always a Bluetooth keyboard, the speech recognition 
>> capacity in my estimation has greatly deteriorated since iOS 12. I find Siri 
>> is more and more cumbersome and requires very specific syntax, which I’ve 
>> known all along was the case, but siri truly seems to have gotten less and 
>> less able to make sense out of the simplest requests. I find this totally 
>> baffling. And I’m not always mumbling either. And does it bother anyone else 
>> that if  auto correct and auto predictive text areturned off does the 
>> program still insist on putting parts of words phrases and pronouns in there 
>> that are absolutely never correct and require A lot of extra time to edit 
>> them out? 
>> There may indeed have been useful features in iOS 13, and now 14, but I was 
>> happy with 12. From what I’ve been reading here in the last week or so, I 
>> have no intention of updating to 14. I don’t have much patience with  work 
>> arounds that people have to do. Learning curve., I can cope with, but things 
>> that get broken  and things that do not get fixed that could save me a 
>> gesture or two thatI’m all for, I find troublesome.
>> There’s more I could say about the new SE 20, but I will refrain. It’s 
>> fortunate that I still love having an  iphone, and I use it daily, in fact I 
>> use it every hour of every single day just about aside from when I happen to 
>> be sleeping… So there are still many pluses.
>> Deirdre
>> 
>> 
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>> > On Sep 19, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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>> > 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> While using voice-over, when I go into the Apple podcasts app and the 
>> >>> podcast episodes in the listen now section, there seems to be no way to 
>> >>> flick to delete that particular episode as they used to be in iOS 13. I 
>> >>> can now double tap and hold and select either remove which sounds scary 
>> >>> or mark as played, but they used to be a simple gesture that you could 
>> >>> flick up or down to delete that particular episode
>> >>> Harry
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