HELLO,
I totally get where you're coming from. I am a Logic Pro and Mainstage
user on the mac, and will not upgrade to big sir upon its reliese. iOS
13.7 is stable at this point, forteen has some nifty features and it
is rather interesting, I am a public beta tester for it, but since
you're happy with 13.7 stick with it. in my view, if you are using
software which requires an older version of software, and this
concloosion goes for everything, not just iOS, as long as something
does what you want, it is pointless to upgrade. I've got an iPad Mini
two which has ran it's update(s), at 12.4.8. it is stable and does
what I need it two. I also have an AirPort Extreem  Base station,
which does not get firmware updates either, stuck at firmware 7.8.1,
but it works for me. so it is not nessessary to upgrade just because
new software is out. my advice to you, never upgrade iOS, because it
is an involved process to get thirteen back, after Apple officially
stops signing it. it can be done, but you've gotta know what you're
doing.
regards,
Daniel Angus MacDonald


On 9/19/20, deidre muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I’m never one eager to update. I know that some here feel that the security
> patches are very important and so they always make sure that they update.
> However these little bugs that people continue to report, and the things
> that never get repaired, that were not broken before, totally cause me to be
> discouraged about where the heads are at around the programmers and the beta
> testers that do this work on all our behalf. Minor structural changes happen
> over the years, Things like they give the tabs different names, and then
> they put the positioning of things such as delete versus remove in different
> places or substitute them, or cause you to have to use different gestures to
> remove a particular mail from a list of threaded emailsWhen it was so easy
> to do before, at least with voiceover. Who do these minor changes  benefit
> when other things could be corrected, such as things in the rotor… what
> about the inability to select text using the line feature? for those of us
> using dictation, and not always a Bluetooth keyboard, the speech recognition
> capacity in my estimation has greatly deteriorated since iOS 12. I find Siri
> is more and more cumbersome and requires very specific syntax, which I’ve
> known all along was the case, but siri truly seems to have gotten less and
> less able to make sense out of the simplest requests. I find this totally
> baffling. And I’m not always mumbling either. And does it bother anyone else
> that if  auto correct and auto predictive text areturned off does the
> program still insist on putting parts of words phrases and pronouns in there
> that are absolutely never correct and require A lot of extra time to edit
> them out?
> There may indeed have been useful features in iOS 13, and now 14, but I was
> happy with 12. From what I’ve been reading here in the last week or so, I
> have no intention of updating to 14. I don’t have much patience with  work
> arounds that people have to do. Learning curve., I can cope with, but things
> that get broken  and things that do not get fixed that could save me a
> gesture or two thatI’m all for, I find troublesome.
> There’s more I could say about the new SE 20, but I will refrain. It’s
> fortunate that I still love having an  iphone, and I use it daily, in fact I
> use it every hour of every single day just about aside from when I happen to
> be sleeping… So there are still many pluses.
> Deirdre
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> While using voice-over, when I go into the Apple podcasts app and the
>>>> podcast episodes in the listen now section, there seems to be no way to
>>>> flick to delete that particular episode as they used to be in iOS 13. I
>>>> can now double tap and hold and select either remove which sounds scary
>>>> or mark as played, but they used to be a simple gesture that you could
>>>> flick up or down to delete that particular episode
>>>> Harry
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