Well, it's kind of naive and short sighted to think that the pandemic and pollution don't impact you including having to pay extra money and taxes.
I for one am glad Apple, Samsung and others are making this move. I don't believe for a minute though that it isn't helping these companies financially, and I'd like to see their savings passed on to the consumer, but I'm also willing to pay a little bit extra if it means a better planet for me and my children. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of James English Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap Hi Simon, The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and having to pay extra money is one of those things. On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > Good points, there, > > Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power > brick, > > Go buy a Samsung, > > Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their > phones also. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Cristobal Muñoz > Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap > > Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not > buy an iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger. > It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with > likely > merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost > from manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those > quantities, the difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the > same price. It's not like they're getting out of the wall charger > business. I mean, you can still buy one from them. It's just another > way for them to nibble around the edges, get some good press and keep > the same price. It comes off as chincy from a brand that holds itself > up as a luxury and consumer friendly company . > But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, > missing the actual point. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Maria Campbell > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap > > Stuff it! > > > Maria Campbell > lucky1i...@gmail.com > > All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. > --Edmund Burke > > On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Yeah cheap, >> >> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they >> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices, >> >> It's not about being cheap, >> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly >> world and save the planet from excess plastic that we don't need to >> clutter our lives with, >> >> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have >> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging >> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they >> were made for, >> >> So if you have one already, >> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or >> iPad, >> >> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so >> much, >> >> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic >> virus and millions dying, >> >> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic >> shit out of a box. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of lenron brown >> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap >> >> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't >> for get the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, >> and airpods when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them >> not putting them in the box. >> >> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw >>> where Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them >>> or Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just >>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I >>> have an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works >>> just fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a >>> USB see power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It >>> didn’t exactly break the bank. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz >>>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and >>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I >>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a >>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut >>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same >>>> under the cover of being environmentally conscious. >>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is >>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of >>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple. >>>> Cristóbal >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Richard Turner >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap >>>> >>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all >>>> the chargers they need and more. >>>> That is certainly true in our household. >>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case. >>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean >>>> now to last many life times. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for >>>> it, but what they become by it." >>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 >>>> >>>> Web site: www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Mich Verrier >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq >>>> >>>> From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with >>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have >>>> to remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple >>>> has dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and >>>> stuff how ever you have to remember that the mane objective for >>>> apple is to make more money. From Mich. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Maria Campbell >>>> Sent: April 15, 2021 1:27 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Apple getting cheapq >>>> >>>> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that >>>> considering it's so proprietary? 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