I completely agree.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of karl 
Smith
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 1:10 PM
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I agree with you but I won't make excuses for them. If I can buy cables and 
chargers for $5 or so than they can surely get them for a lot less. This is 
simply a way for them to gouge more money from us. If they used any kind of 
standard cable like USB C it would be a somewhat different thing but the 
lightening connecter is their own and no one else's so they will make money 
from us when we buy them no matter where we get them.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
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Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 11:03 AM
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Hear are my thoughts.  Yes they should include chargers.  However they won't.  
Will I not buy Apple because of it?  No.  Apple has better accessibility then 
Android.  That is what I will base my choice on.  What has the better 
accessibility.  That for now is Apple.  Android is still about 50 to 40% behind 
Apple.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:18 PM
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I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get the 
fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when they 
dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the box.

On 4/15/21, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or Google 
> with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just don’t need 
> all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have an iPad 
> charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just fine. And of 
> course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see power block 
> which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly break the bank.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I also 
>> definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a convenient and 
>> specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut the cost of 
>> production and logistics and still charge the same under the cover of 
>> being environmentally conscious.
>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>> Cristóbal
>>
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>
>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all the 
>> chargers they need and more.
>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>> now to last many life times.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>> but what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
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>>
>>
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Mich Verrier
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>
>> From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with 
>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have to 
>> remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple has 
>> dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and stuff how 
>> ever you have to remember that the mane objective for apple is to 
>> make more money. From Mich.
>>
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: April 15, 2021 1:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
>>
>> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger.  How cheap is that 
>> considering it's so proprietary?  It came with the C cord but not the 
>> charger.
>>
>>
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