Lol I don’t know how I’d feel switching over to Samsung myself since I’ve been an Apple user for many years.
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:24 AM, James English <james13engl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because > for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't > care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and > having to pay extra money is one of those things. > > On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> Good points, there, >> >> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power brick, >> >> Go buy a Samsung, >> >> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their phones >> also. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Cristobal Muñoz >> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap >> >> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not buy an >> iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger. >> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with likely >> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on cost from >> manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those quantities, the >> difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the same price. It's not >> like they're getting out of the wall charger business. I mean, you can still >> buy one from them. It's just another way for them to nibble around the >> edges, get some good press and keep the same price. It comes off as chincy >> from a brand that holds itself up as a luxury and consumer friendly company >> . >> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, missing the >> actual point. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Maria >> Campbell >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap >> >> Stuff it! >> >> >> Maria Campbell >> lucky1i...@gmail.com >> >> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. >> --Edmund Burke >> >> On 4/15/2021 7:59 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >>> Yeah cheap, >>> >>> So I'm guessing people didn't listen to tim cook when he said they >>> were getting rid of the power bricks in the boxes for the devices, >>> >>> It's not about being cheap, >>> It's more to do with apple trying to get back in to the eco friendly >>> world and save the planet from excess plastic that we don't need to >>> clutter our lives with, >>> >>> Plus the fact that majority of the people around the planet who have >>> had or have apple mobile devices already have a couple of charging >>> bricks lying around and therefore those will still do the job they >>> were made for, >>> >>> So if you have one already, >>> Why complain about them being left out of the box for a phone or iPad, >>> >>> I really love how these serious first world problems bug you guys so >>> much, >>> >>> Imagine if we had real problems around the planet like a pendemic >>> virus and millions dying, >>> >>> But you guys get upset because apple leave a $20 peace of plastic shit out >>> of a box. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> lenron brown >>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 7:18 am >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap >>> >>> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get >>> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods >>> when they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them >>> in the box. >>> >>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where >>>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or >>>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just >>>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have >>>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just >>>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see >>>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly >>>> break the bank. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz >>>>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and >>>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I >>>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a >>>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut >>>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under >>>>> the cover of being environmentally conscious. >>>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is >>>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of >>>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple. >>>>> Cristóbal >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>>> Of Richard Turner >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap >>>>> >>>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all >>>>> the chargers they need and more. >>>>> That is certainly true in our household. >>>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case. >>>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean >>>>> now to last many life times. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard >>>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, >>>>> but what they become by it." >>>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 >>>>> >>>>> Web site: www.turner42.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>>> Of Mich Verrier >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq >>>>> >>>>> From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with >>>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have >>>>> to remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple >>>>> has dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and >>>>> stuff how ever you have to remember that the mane objective for >>>>> apple is to make more money. From Mich. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>>> Of Maria Campbell >>>>> Sent: April 15, 2021 1:27 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Apple getting cheapq >>>>> >>>>> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that >>>>> considering it's so proprietary? 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