I can live with that. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Well, let’s be thankful for what we have. If you think back to 2009 or 2008 we 
were just happy to have a flip phone or a candy bar phone with talking caller 
ID. Now we can just about do anything on our phones that anyone else can do. So 
if we need to buy a charger the charger is interchangeable with almost any 
cable. Again let’s be thankful for what we have. Take care stay safe

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Apr 17, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I completely agree.
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> karl Smith
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 1:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
> 
> I agree with you but I won't make excuses for them. If I can buy cables and 
> chargers for $5 or so than they can surely get them for a lot less. This is 
> simply a way for them to gouge more money from us. If they used any kind of 
> standard cable like USB C it would be a somewhat different thing but the 
> lightening connecter is their own and no one else's so they will make money 
> from us when we buy them no matter where we get them.
> 
> Karl
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
> 
> Hear are my thoughts.  Yes they should include chargers.  However they won't. 
>  Will I not buy Apple because of it?  No.  Apple has better accessibility 
> then Android.  That is what I will base my choice on.  What has the better 
> accessibility.  That for now is Apple.  Android is still about 50 to 40% 
> behind Apple.
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
> 
> I say screw them it's just another way for them to be cheap. Can't for get 
> the fact that it's a ploy to get you to buy extra chargers, and airpods when 
> they dropped the headphone jacks, and of course them not putting them in the 
> box.
> 
>> On 4/15/21, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Apparently others are following an apples lead. I believe I saw where 
>> Samsung is dropping the chargers as well. It was either them or 
>> Google with their pixels. Maybe they are being cheap. But we just 
>> don’t need all this extra crap going out into the environment. I have 
>> an iPad charger from a really old iPad mini that still works just 
>> fine. And of course I have a couple of iPhone chargers and a USB see 
>> power block which I think cost me all of eight bucks. It didn’t exactly 
>> break the bank.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz 
>>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mean... I do believe it's a good thing that more plastic and 
>>> accessories like that aren't being put out into the world, but I 
>>> also definitely think that Apple's being cheap. More like a 
>>> convenient and specious excuse for them to remove an item and cut 
>>> the cost of production and logistics and still charge the same under 
>>> the cover of being environmentally conscious.
>>> Either way though, it's not like not having the charger included is 
>>> going to be a make or break decision for anyone who was thinking of 
>>> buying an iPhone. Just more nickel and diming from Apple.
>>> Cristóbal
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>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>>> 
>>> Apple says it is for the environment because most people have all 
>>> the chargers they need and more.
>>> That is certainly  true in our household.
>>> I happen to agree with Apple in this case.
>>> We have enough (Expletive deleted) stuff in the landfills and ocean 
>>> now to last many life times.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
>>> but what they become by it."
>>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Mich Verrier
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:30 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>> 
>>> From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with 
>>> chargers since they want you to buy them seppritley since you have 
>>> to remember that apple's main thing is to make money. O shure apple 
>>> has dun good for the blind and vi comunidey with voice over and 
>>> stuff how ever you have to remember that the mane objective for 
>>> apple is to make more money. From Mich.
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>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Maria Campbell
>>> Sent: April 15, 2021 1:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
>>> 
>>> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger.  How cheap is that 
>>> considering it's so proprietary?  It came with the C cord but not 
>>> the charger.
>>> 
>>> 
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