Hi all. Richard, you are correct in that the VO containers feature will reliably move you from the left panel to the right panel and vice versa. I typically recommend that any VO users set up a couple of gestures on the iPad to jump quickly between the 2 containers. The only other option is to understand physically on your specific iPad where the border between each panel exists, so that you can simply tap on one panel or the other to change VoiceOver focus.
HTH, Scott On 4/26/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > Not exactly. > ON an iPad, in settings, you will have each setting category on the left > panel, and when you double tap on one, say Accessibility; the right panel > will have all of the subsections of accessibility. So, flicking right after > selecting Accessibility will just carry you down that left panel. If you > flick right enough, eventually you will run out of things and move to the > right panel. > I think tha tis considered also a container, so I think, and this is going > by my vague memory as it has been months and months since I had an iPad in > my hands, you could jump to the next container and be on the right side. > > IN music, the artist or album will be on the left and the songs or albums > under a select artist will be on the right. > > On web pages, if the web page is in columns, they will show up that way on > the iPad. > > You can also do a split screen so that you have two apps side by side so > you can select something from say, Safari, and have your email in the other > panel and touch there, and paste into your email, etc. > > As a totally blind person, I find the iPad is great for getting messed up by > touching the wrong spot on the screen given the large layout. > Some totally blind people love them and wouldn’t want to depend only on the > small iPhone screen. > It is great that we have choices. > > > > Richard > "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but > what they become by it." > - John Ruskin, 1819-1900 > > Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Considering purchasing an iPad > > I don’t have an iPad, but is this columns feature the same thing as > containers? > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 12:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Considering purchasing an iPad > > Ipads still and probably always will, have the column feature. That is the > point of the larger screen. > That is also why I personally do not want one. > When I was teaching, working with clients who had iPads, the columns gave > them the most difficulty. > Even if you lock the orientation in portrait, there are still times where > you have to deal with the screen being in two columns. > But, that is also the strength of the iPad, in that you get a better sense > of how screens are realy arranged especially on the web. > With the mini, having a smaart keyboard folio case is possible, but you end > up with a pretty small keyboard that is not in standard layout. > You could buy a larger iPhone, like the iPhone 11 pro, or max, and just not > have a SIM card and use it as an iPod type device. > You would get good battery life, etc. > Good luck, > > > Richard > "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds > discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt > > www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbb0de05bcf1749e97e5008d90885ec6a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637550193551392152%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=oGQEjAlpykbzCFxpISelhlK6MtGLhHb2LkOmpMiAmZs%3D&reserved=0> > > > On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:03 PM, Simon A Fogarty > <si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: > Hi Terri, > > I'm not sure what you mean by columns but I don't think of iPads being in > column formats > > As for an iPad, > > Yeah sure if you want to have another device that you may not really need. > > Have you thought about just using your phone to do what you need to? > > You can get some nice little portable keyboards for the iPhone which might > be helpful to you. > > As for iPads and keyboard, > I found it more difficult to find a Bluetooth folio keyboard for my ipad > mini 5 than it would have been for the iPad > > Have a look at the price of the devices first and compare a standard iPad or > iPad Air 4 > To the price of an ipad mini 5 > Note also the ipads now have the ability to take / use smart folio keyboards > from apple, > So a specially built keyboard for the ipads > Which apple don't make for the minis, > My personal thought is that this is an absolute bummer > > So check things out before you buy as you can use your phone for everything > you can do on the ipad. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Terri Stimmel > Sent: Monday, 26 April 2021 7:28 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Considering purchasing an iPad > > Hello everyone, > > > I am considering purchasing an iPad. I am trying to decide it is really what > I want to do. I had an iPad Mini, several years ago. I can do a lot on my > phone, and I use it all the time. > > However, sometimes I don't want to have to use my phone all the time. I > still enjoy using my laptop. 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