Hi Janet,

Yes, the second generation SE has screen recognition. Unless you've changed 
Quick SEttings, an easy way to find it and turn it off for 7 Little Words if 
it's on is to open 7 Little Words and do a two-finger quadruple-tap. Find 
screen rEcognition, and turn it off.

HTH,
Anna


> On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:41 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, would an SE20 have voice recognition on it as I can't find it 
> anywhere.  I did as you suggested and still can't get rid of direct touch but 
> there  you go.  Janet
> 
> On 26/09/2021 18:07, Donna Casteen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Assuming that Direct Touch is still on per my previous instructions: Close 7 
>> Little Words from the app switcher, then reopen it. Voiceover should now be 
>> back on. Use one finger & swipe down to settings & tap to open. Swipe down 
>> to sound & use one finger & double tap to turn off the sounds. Make sure 
>> that you are using three fingers & taping only once. Wait a couple seconds 
>> between taps to toggle between words or characters. Without waiting the tap 
>> may be confused with the three finger double tap which toggles voiceover 
>> speech on & off.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>  
>>> I am wondering what phone and which iOS version you are using. I really 
>>> liked your solution for when someone accidentally turned off speech in 7 
>>> Little Words, however, on my iPhone SE 202 running iOS 14.8 and 15 it 
>>> didn’t work. I was sillily adventurous, and I turned off speech in the 
>>> game. Then I went to the app switcher, and while on 7 Little Words I turned 
>>> the rotor to “direct touch” and turned it on. It didn’t restore speech to 
>>> the game. Unless there is something I did wrong, I will have to delete the 
>>> app and download it again.
>>>  
>>> I did have the most recent update working, and I am getting used to it. 
>>> However, I sure wish you could turn off the infernal clicking. Right now 
>>> that toggle still isn’t working. I am going to write to the developer about 
>>> that.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>  
>>> Take care and stay safe!
>>>  
>>> Debby
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Janet Bell
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:34 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words
>>>  
>>> so where do you find screen recognition please and also I wish he would get 
>>> rid of direct touch area forever Janet
>>> 
>>> On 25/09/2021 17:54, CHELA Robles wrote:
>>> Well I just took the plunge and downloaded it for the very first time I 
>>> will have to learn how to play this it sounds fun similar to scrabble 
>>> Innoway it looks like and boy it’s been quite sometime since I’ve played 
>>> Scrabble myself but thanks for introducing this game. I downloaded the 
>>> trumpets pack since I myself am a trumpet player. You know the other game I 
>>> like is I associate II.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> 
>>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi everyone, 
>>>  
>>> I actually got it to work! There was an update last night, but it still 
>>> didn't work well, so I reinstalled it. I continued to have problems and 
>>> discovered that Screen Recognition was on. Once I turned that off, it 
>>> worked pretty well. I even got braille output! It puts out the braille as 
>>> alert messages, so I set the Braille alert Message time to 3 seconds. I 
>>> can't use the display to control the game, but I can flick with one hand 
>>> and read with my other hand on the display. The word eye is displayed when 
>>> the letter i is spoken in a clue, but otherwise, it seems to work. It's 
>>> pretty responsive, and I like being able to do a single finger flick up or 
>>> down to move between the sections of the game. I'm so happy that this is 
>>> playable again!
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 4:12 AM, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I will let you know.  Janet
>>> On 25/09/2021 09:27, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
>>> I’m giving up on it and have deleted the app. It is such a shame as it kept 
>>> me sane during lockdown but I am just finding it too fiddly and frustrating 
>>> to use as it is now. 
>>> If it reverts to being more useable, please let us know and I’ll reload it.
>>> Alison
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Debby
>>> Sent: 22 September 2021 14:09
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: new Seven Little Words
>>>  
>>> Hi Janet,
>>>  
>>> Yes, a sighted person would need to go to setting, and check the box for 
>>> text to speech.
>>>  
>>> By the way, two friends and I did the same thing Because we didn’t have 
>>> working eyes available, we completely deleted the app from our phones and 
>>> then downloaded it again. That brought speech back. If you have purchased 
>>> any puzzle packs you will need to restore those purchases.
>>>  
>>> Take care and stay Safe!
>>>  
>>> Debby
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Janet Bell
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:31 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: new Seven Little Words
>>>  
>>> thanks Alison I am not sure when someone will be here it may be Sunday can 
>>> you tell me what I ask them to do?  is it just to put the text to speech 
>>> back on?  Janet
>>> On 22/09/2021 10:44, Alison May wrote:
>>> Be my guest, Janet (smile!) But I know how frustrating it is when you don't 
>>> have a pair of eyes to hand to help with the things that you just can't do 
>>> yourself. He does have his uses!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 
>>> 0777 315 8181
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 10:40 am, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> 
>>> <mailto:tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> HI Alison please may I borrow your husband as I haven't got one of my own 
>>> Janet
>>> On 22/09/2021 10:28, Alison May wrote:
>>> I did exactly the same but needed sighted assistance to undo my mistake.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 
>>> 0777 315 8181
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2021, at 9:24 am, Janet Bell <tagli...@gmail.com> 
>>> <mailto:tagli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> finally caught up with the update of 7 lettle words but I accidentally 
>>> switched off text to speech so have no feedback whatsoever.  is there a way 
>>> to get some speech back please?  Janet
>>> On 20/09/2021 19:36, Debby wrote:
>>> Hi Alison,
>>>  
>>> Yes indeed this is definitely an update that broke things. I wrote to Blue 
>>> Ox Family Games, the developer of 7 Little words, and below is the response 
>>> I received:
>>>  
>>> Hi Debby,
>>> The latest version of 7 Little Words does use a slightly different version 
>>> of Voice Over which allows us to extend this game across both the iOS and 
>>> Android platforms. As such, there are some modifications and we realize we 
>>> have done a poor job of communicating them and are rushing a build out to 
>>> remedy this.
>>> 
>>> First off, here are the touch commands for navigating the game board for 
>>> each puzzle:
>>> * swipe right and left to advance through the screen elements as before, 
>>> but now you can swipe down and up to jump between the major screen sections 
>>> (back button, clues, answer/spelling, tiles)
>>> * use a two finger tap to switch between reading by word or letter and two 
>>> finger swipe to advance through each clue
>>> * when you select a tile as part of an answer, you remain in the tile 
>>> section, which should reduce the number of swipes you need
>>> 
>>> To note, the two-finger tap to switch the reading by word or letter will be 
>>> switched to a three-finger tap in the next build as it sometimes caused 
>>> confusion with the two-finger swipe.
>>> 
>>> We have hired a blind accessibility contractor to help us make it as 
>>> accessible as possible but we greatly appreciate your feedback on how we 
>>> can do this better. Your feedback on the click noise for each move is 
>>> something I will get addressed in a forthcoming build, so that if you 
>>> decide to turn off the "sound effects" in the game, it will turn off this 
>>> clicking sound as you swipe through the board.
>>> 
>>> Please let us know if this is helpful and again appreciate any additional 
>>> feedback you might have.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: new Seven Little Words
>>>  
>>> I have always enjoyed this word puzzled game on my iPhone but the recent 
>>> changes are really making it frustrating to play. The enhancements make it 
>>> much slower and it also seems to jump about. Is anyone else having better 
>>> luck than me?
>>> Alison
>>> difficut 
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