Just a couple more things Evan.  Keep in mind that normally in a smaller phone 
factor comes less battery life.  I would say that both phones have decent 
battery life, but nothing compared to the bigger phones.  Of coarse, battery 
life is dependent on how much the phone is used every day.  The second thing 
is, and you did not say this mattered, but the iphone SE uses touch ID and has 
a home button, and the iphone 13 uses face ID and has no home button.  Just a 
couple of things that you should keep in mind when looking at the different 
iphones.

I would say that both the iphone 13 mini and the iphone SE will work good for 
you for several years and I would guess 4 to 5 years depending on usage and how 
good the battery life holds up.

It is said, that the reason the mini is no longer in the lineup of the new 
phones is because of sales.  And I personally think that having two iphones at 
the smaller form factor is why the mini is going away.  The SE is a very 
popular model, and the SE sales is a lot more, and this is probably because the 
price of the SE is less than the mini.  So I do not think either phone is a bad 
choice.  Like anything else, it comes down to personal preference.

Chris


> On Oct 20, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan
> 
> ,I don't think I'll be getting it next week, but I plan to take a trip at the 
> end of the year; so I do need to have it up and running by then for sure.
> 
> I don't really need the absolute top of the line, but I figure that if I'm 
> going to get one, I do admit to feeling that it would be cool to get a really 
> nice one, especially if I can get it in a small package, particularly since I 
> hope to be using it for a good while, given that these things are not cheap.
> 
> I'll let you know what I get.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/2022 11:30 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Hi Evan,
>> 
>> Just to clarify some misinformation posted about the iPhone 13 Mini versus 
>> the iPhone SE. I'm currently using the 13 Mini and my iPhone before it was 
>> the SE 2020. The SE 2020 has the same physical form factor as the iPhone 7 
>> and 8 and while the 13 Mini has a larger screen size than the SE, its 
>> physical form factor is actually a bit smaller.
>> 
>> I'm not going to pretend to predict when these various models will be 
>> obsolete but I believe the 13
>> Mini will be usable for a few more years. I can say that I really like mine 
>> and don't think you can go wrong choosing it.
>> 
>> Good luck with your decision.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Larry,
>>> 
>>> I did some Googling. It took me some time, but I found a guide to Apple's 
>>> smallest iPhones.
>>> 
>>> Apparently, the iPhone Mini was a very popular line, so there was some 
>>> dissapointment when a new version wasn't released this year.
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering though, if I get a 13 Mini, if it will be more likely to go 
>>> obsolete before an SE model or a standard 14 model.
>>> 
>>> If that is unlikely, then I'm kind of leaning toward that model. It's still 
>>> for sale on the Apple site and from Verizon, which is our carrier.
>>> 
>>> The SE is close to the same size as the Mini, although according to what 
>>> I've read, it has a smaller screen but a bigger body. A lower screen 
>>> resolution too, but that doesn't matter to me.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/20/2022 10:48 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>>>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Evan Reese
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that 
>>>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told 
>>>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>>> 
>>>> Is that true?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>> 
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
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