Intteresting that for one person something works, but for the next, not so 
much! I cannot be comfortable with the phone on a table, but lying on my chest 
with my fingers as Braille Touch explains, I am getting faster and faster. 
Guess that is the beauty of us all being different. Now if I could only stop 
the necessity of turning off VO off and on! Will do it as I love the app, but I 
wish I 'didN't have to do this before I start to type!

Reggie and Brooks

On Feb 2, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Yes, I've just confirmed that you can definitely do this.  I have my phone 
> lying flat on my computer desk with the home buttton to the right and just 
> used a v-shaped finger arrangement to type with Braille Touch.  It will still 
> take some getting used to, as you do need to be careful about finger 
> placement, but that v-shaped arrangement is an option if you don't want to 
> hold the phone. I personally don't want to hold the phone if I don't have to, 
> so this arrangement could work out well if the phone is lying on a desk or if 
> I'm sitting with the phone resting in my lap.  
>  
> Tom
>  
>   
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BrailleTouch
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:49    AM
> Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement
> 
> Hi Alan,
> It is not documented, but you can put your iPhone on a table and type with 
> BrailleTouch sort of like on a Perkins, but with your fingers in the shape of 
> a letter V. Several people have discovered this. Please try it and see if it 
> works for you.
> 
> Best,
> Caleb
> http://brailletouchapp.com/
> 
> On 2/2/2013 9:34 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
>> Caleb, perhaps an alternative keyboard should be added.  My experience is, 
>> if I hold my iPhone higher about face high, my fingers get the correct dots 
>> most of the time but after awhile, holding the phone that gets tiring.  How 
>> about using the phone on a table-top with the screen facing up and the 
>> fingers forming a letter V.  The index fingers of both hands in the bottom 
>> center of the screen and the remaining fingers forming the rest of the V.  
>> Perhaps it could be called table top move and the normal way, hand-held.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: BrailleTouch
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 7:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement
>> 
>> Hi Rob and everyone,
>> I'd like to try a suggestion for finding a good finger placement with 
>> BrailleTouch for new users and people having trouble with certain 
>> characters. Please let me know if        this is helpful.
>> 
>> When you open the touchscreen braille keyboard, first try to find the 
>> four corners of the touchscreen. Let's assume you have not flipped the 
>> dots in the Settings. First, type dot 1 for the letter A with your left 
>> index finger. Move your finger toward the corner of the iPhone until you 
>> find the limits of the touch sensitive area of the screen.  Then type an 
>> apostrophe with your left ring finger, dot 3. Move this finger toward 
>> that corner of the iPhone until you find the limits. Now go back and 
>> forth with the letter A and the apostrophe until you have comfortably 
>> and reliably located your left hand.
>> 
>> Next, do the same thing with your right hand. Start with your right 
>> index finger on dot 4 for the at-sign. Then locate your right ring 
>> finger on dot 6 for the capital sign. Then check both the at-sign        and 
>> the capital sign back and forth until you've found a good position        
>> for 
>> your right hand.
>> 
>> I am curious to know if this is helpful for anyone who is new to 
>> BrailleTouch or anyone who is having trouble getting certain characters 
>> to work. Please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Caleb
>> http://brailletouchapp.com/
>> 
>> On 2/1/2013 3:04 PM, RobH! wrote:
>> > I think they're about half inch in,         but there's some slack so 
>> > absolute
>> > accuracy isn't critical;  but can't afford to  stray out of the area. I'd
>> > like  our  favourite producer adviser to give some idea of dimensions so we
>> > might get a better idea of finger spacing;  I think that could betray us.
>> > Can one be too far up or down towards an edge and miss that button?
>> >
>> > Thanks, RobH.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Regina Alvarado" <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>
>> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:23 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry Jen, I misspoke.  I am not        touching the all caps with my 
>> > little finger
>> > but my ring finger.  I am holding the phone with the screen away from me 
>> > and
>> > my thumbs on top and little fingers holding the bottom in landscape.  What 
>> > I
>> > need to know, or perhaps this is just more practice, is how far do I put my
>> > Braille key fingers from the sides (top and bottom in portrait) into the
>> > screen to be able to touch the dots.  Are they right above the home button
>> > on the right and just below the ear slit on the left or are they further
>> > into the screen?
>> > Reggie
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> > Of Jennie Facer
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:06 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > First of all, you don't hold your phone flat down on the table. Act as if
>> > you were going to take a picture of yourself with the back camera.         
>> > now, put
>> > your palms on each end of the phone.  now rest your fingers vertically on
>> > the screen.  dots 1, 2, and 3 are your left. Dots 4, 5, and 6 are your
>> > right. I hope this makes some sense. Your hands have to be at each end of
>> > the screen.
>> >
>> > Write me off list if I can be of more helpp.
>> >
>> > Jenn
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >
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