Excellent idea, I'll go with that; the help could also have the available symbol list as an appendix too. I had to discover some of the more obscure characters by playing.
Rh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Simmons" <simmonslaure...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement It sounds to me that a "practice mode" should be introduced in a future update. This would be similar to pressing Insert + 1 on jaws and Window Eyes. The new user can practice finger placement and typing out the alphabet and punctuation marks until he or she gets the hang of it. The practice mode can then throw random letters and punctuation marks at the user and assess competency. If the practice mode can be turned on and off quickly the user can also use this to remind him or her of the location of little used buttons or commands. After getting past the first 4 tutorial screens I had absolutely no problems repeatedly typing out the alphabet--oh, except for typing the letter H which caused nme to drop my iPod. Seems like lots of work will have to go into writing the Practice mode program, but its just a suggestion. (Smile). LS ----- Original Message ----- From: "BrailleTouch" <viph...@brailletouchapp.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 1:02 PM Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement > Hi Yolanda, > > Thanks for downloading BrailleTouch. When you type a C with two index > fingers, that would be dots 1 and 4. You said BrailleTouch sees a colon, > which is dots 2 and 5. This means you could try moving your hands up the > screen a little. > > When you type a B, which is dots 1 and 2, you said BrailleTouch sees a > semicolon, which is dots 2 and 3. This means the same thing. Please try > to move your left hand up the screen a little. > > I would suggest trying to find the four corners. Type an A (dot 1, left > index), then an apostrophe (dot 3, left ring), then an at-sign (dot 4, > right index), then a capital sign (dot 6, right ring). Please try moving > your hand position around on each of these characters in the four > corners, and then going back and forth between them. This might help you > to find where the dots are on the touchscreen. > > I hope this helps! > Best, > Caleb > http://brailletouchapp.com/ > > On 2/2/2013 3:30 PM, Yolanda wrote: >> >> I am still having problems---obviously with placement. When I press >> my two index fingers at the same time I am told it is a colon. Left >> index and middle is a semicolon. What am I doing inaccurately? >> >> "If one dream should fall and break into a thousand pieces, never be >> afraid to pick >> >> one of those pieces up and begin again." --Flavia Weedn >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *BrailleTouch >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:50 AM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: BrailleTouch finger placement >> >> Hi Alan, >> It is not documented, but you can put your iPhone on a table and type >> with BrailleTouch sort of like on a Perkins, but with your fingers in >> the shape of a letter V. Several people have discovered this. Please >> try it and see if it works for you. >> >> Best, >> Caleb >> http://brailletouchapp.com/ >> >> On 2/2/2013 9:34 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote: >> >> Caleb, perhaps an alternative keyboard should be added. My >> experience is, if I hold my iPhone higher about face high, my >> fingers get the correct dots most of the time but after awhile, >> holding the phone that gets tiring. How about using the phone on a >> table-top with the screen facing up and the fingers forming a >> letter V. The index fingers of both hands in the bottom center of >> the screen and the remaining fingers forming the rest of the V. >> Perhaps it could be called table top move and the normal way, >> hand-held. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:*BrailleTouch <mailto:viph...@brailletouchapp.com> >> >> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> *Sent:*Friday, February 01, 2013 7:40 PM >> >> *Subject:*Re: BrailleTouch finger placement >> >> Hi Rob and everyone, >> I'd like to try a suggestion for finding a good finger >> placement with >> BrailleTouch for new users and people having trouble with certain >> characters. Please let me know if this is helpful. >> >> When you open the touchscreen braille keyboard, first try to >> find the >> four corners of the touchscreen. Let's assume you have not >> flipped the >> dots in the Settings. First, type dot 1 for the letter A with >> your left >> index finger. Move your finger toward the corner of the iPhone >> until you >> find the limits of the touch sensitive area of the screen. >> Then type an >> apostrophe with your left ring finger, dot 3. Move this finger >> toward >> that corner of the iPhone until you find the limits. Now go >> back and >> forth with the letter A and the apostrophe until you have >> comfortably >> and reliably located your left hand. >> >> Next, do the same thing with your right hand. Start with your >> right >> index finger on dot 4 for the at-sign. Then locate your right >> ring >> finger on dot 6 for the capital sign. Then check both the >> at-sign and >> the capital sign back and forth until you've found a good >> position for >> your right hand. >> >> I am curious to know if this is helpful for anyone who is new to >> BrailleTouch or anyone who is having trouble getting certain >> characters >> to work. Please let me know. >> >> Thanks, >> Caleb >> http://brailletouchapp.com/ >> >> On 2/1/2013 3:04 PM, RobH! wrote: >> > I think they're about half inch in, but there's some slack >> so absolute >> > accuracy isn't critical; but can't afford to stray out of >> the area. I'd >> > like our favourite producer adviser to give some idea of >> dimensions so we >> > might get a better idea of finger spacing; I think that >> could betray us. >> > Can one be too far up or down towards an edge and miss that >> button? >> > >> > Thanks, RobH. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Regina Alvarado" <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com >> <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> >> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:23 PM >> > Subject: RE: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH >> > >> > >> > Sorry Jen, I misspoke. I am not touching the all caps with >> my little finger >> > but my ring finger. I am holding the phone with the screen >> away from me and >> > my thumbs on top and little fingers holding the bottom in >> landscape. What I >> > need to know, or perhaps this is just more practice, is how >> far do I put my >> > Braille key fingers from the sides (top and bottom in >> portrait) into the >> > screen to be able to touch the dots. Are they right above >> the home button >> > on the right and just below the ear slit on the left or are >> they further >> > into the screen? >> > Reggie >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> > Of Jennie Facer >> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:06 PM >> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> > Subject: Re: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > First of all, you don't hold your phone flat down on the >> table. Act as if >> > you were going to take a picture of yourself with the back >> camera. now, put >> > your palms on each end of the phone. now rest your fingers >> vertically on >> > the screen. dots 1, 2, and 3 are your left. Dots 4, 5, and >> 6 are your >> > right. I hope this makes some sense. 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