Place the phone on the table in front of you.  Now place your fingers on the 
phone's touch screen.  You should notice how the shape of all 4 fingers on each 
hand kind of forms a V or think of it as a sea gull.  Hope that helps.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement


  Okay, while I am typing fine when holding the phone, I don't think I am 
understanding the V position for typing on a table. How do you do this without 
having to turn both hands awkwardly in order to put them on the phone in the 
right position? I know I just must not be conceptualizing it correctly.


  Thanks.


  -- 
  Cheryl


  May the words of my mouth
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





  On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Hi,
    Yes, I've just confirmed that you can definitely do this.  I have my phone 
lying flat on my computer desk with the home buttton to the right and just used 
a v-shaped finger arrangement to type with Braille Touch.  It will still take 
some getting used to, as you do need to be careful about finger placement, but 
that v-shaped arrangement is an option if you don't want to hold the phone. I 
personally don't want to hold the phone if I don't have to, so this arrangement 
could work out well if the phone is lying on a desk or if I'm sitting with the 
phone resting in my lap.  

    Tom

       
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: BrailleTouch 
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:49 AM
      Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement


      Hi Alan,
      It is not documented, but you can put your iPhone on a table and type 
with BrailleTouch sort of like on a Perkins, but with your fingers in the shape 
of a letter V. Several people have discovered this. Please try it and see if it 
works for you.

      Best,
      Caleb
      http://brailletouchapp.com/

      On 2/2/2013 9:34 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

        Caleb, perhaps an alternative keyboard should be added.  My experience 
is, if I hold my iPhone higher about face high, my fingers get the correct dots 
most of the time but after awhile, holding the phone that gets tiring.  How 
about using the phone on a table-top with the screen facing up and the fingers 
forming a letter V.  The index fingers of both hands in the bottom center of 
the screen and the remaining fingers forming the rest of the V.  Perhaps it 
could be called table top move and the normal way, hand-held.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: BrailleTouch 
          To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
          Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 7:40 PM
          Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement


          Hi Rob and everyone,
          I'd like to try a suggestion for finding a good finger placement with 
          BrailleTouch for new users and people having trouble with certain 
          characters. Please let me know if this is helpful.

          When you open the touchscreen braille keyboard, first try to find the 
          four corners of the touchscreen. Let's assume you have not flipped 
the 
          dots in the Settings. First, type dot 1 for the letter A with your 
left 
          index finger. Move your finger toward the corner of the iPhone until 
you 
          find the limits of the touch sensitive area of the screen.  Then type 
an 
          apostrophe with your left ring finger, dot 3. Move this finger toward 
          that corner of the iPhone until you find the limits. Now go back and 
          forth with the letter A and the apostrophe until you have comfortably 
          and reliably located your left hand.

          Next, do the same thing with your right hand. Start with your right 
          index finger on dot 4 for the at-sign. Then locate your right ring 
          finger on dot 6 for the capital sign. Then check both the at-sign and 
          the capital sign back and forth until you've found a good position 
for 
          your right hand.

          I am curious to know if this is helpful for anyone who is new to 
          BrailleTouch or anyone who is having trouble getting certain 
characters 
          to work. Please let me know.

          Thanks,
          Caleb
          http://brailletouchapp.com/

          On 2/1/2013 3:04 PM, RobH! wrote:
          > I think they're about half inch in,  but there's some slack so 
absolute
          > accuracy isn't critical;  but can't afford to  stray out of the 
area. I'd
          > like  our  favourite producer adviser to give some idea of 
dimensions so we
          > might get a better idea of finger spacing;  I think that could 
betray us.
          > Can one be too far up or down towards an edge and miss that button?
          >
          > Thanks, RobH.
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: "Regina Alvarado" <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>
          > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
          > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:23 PM
          > Subject: RE: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
          >
          >
          > Sorry Jen, I misspoke.  I am not touching the all caps with my 
little finger
          > but my ring finger.  I am holding the phone with the screen away 
from me and
          > my thumbs on top and little fingers holding the bottom in 
landscape.  What I
          > need to know, or perhaps this is just more practice, is how far do 
I put my
          > Braille key fingers from the sides (top and bottom in portrait) 
into the
          > screen to be able to touch the dots.  Are they right above the home 
button
          > on the right and just below the ear slit on the left or are they 
further
          > into the screen?
          > Reggie
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf
          > Of Jennie Facer
          > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:06 PM
          > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
          > Subject: Re: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
          >
          > Hi,
          >
          > First of all, you don't hold your phone flat down on the table. Act 
as if
          > you were going to take a picture of yourself with the back camera.  
now, put
          > your palms on each end of the phone.  now rest your fingers 
vertically on
          > the screen.  dots 1, 2, and 3 are your left. Dots 4, 5, and 6 are 
your
          > right. I hope this makes some sense. Your hands have to be at each 
end of
          > the screen.
          >
          > Write me off list if I can be of more helpp.
          >
          > Jenn
          >
          > Sent from my iPhone
          >
          >

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