I have it running on a 3GS,  but that is slower to do anything, so not 
significantly slower doing bT than  responding to my navigation around the 
screen.

Rh.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement


Considering that it is going on with more than one app, and considering that 
the two reported apps are memory / processor intensive, I am willing to bet 
the sluggishness has more to do with older iDevices. IPhone 5 has 1 GB RAM 
and an A6 processor. IPhone 4S has 512 MB RAM and an A5 processor, whilst 
iPhone 4 has 256 MB RAM and a slower processor than the 4S.

There was a drastic difference in speed, and much less delays when I 
upgraded to an iPhone 5. This is all expected behaviour and happens with 
computers as well.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 03/02/2013, at 13:05, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cheryl,
> You are correcT. When I go intoBraille Touch, and begin to type, the 
> letters are read back to me very delayed. Caleb told me to turn Vo ofF and 
> back on just as I must do in Fleksy. Hoping one of these developers  will 
> come up with  a fix as it is a workaround but would be better if not 
> necessary. I still wonder if it has something to do with upgrading over 
> the air.
>
> Reggie and Brooks
>
> On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I never turn off vo before I start typing. I think maybe some people are 
>> having sluggishness problesms and that's why they are doing it but I 
>> never do.
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>>
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Intteresting that for one person something works, but for the next, not 
>>> so much! I cannot be comfortable with the phone on a table, but lying on 
>>> my chest with my fingers as Braille Touch explains, I am getting faster 
>>> and faster. Guess that is the beauty of us all being different. Now if I 
>>> could only stop the necessity of turning off VO off and on! Will do it 
>>> as I love the app, but I wish I 'didN't have to do this before I start 
>>> to type!
>>>
>>> Reggie and Brooks
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Yes, I've just confirmed that you can definitely do this.  I have my 
>>>> phone lying flat on my computer desk with the home buttton to the right 
>>>> and just used a v-shaped finger arrangement to type with Braille Touch. 
>>>> It will still take some getting used to, as you do need to be careful 
>>>> about finger placement, but that v-shaped arrangement is an option if 
>>>> you don't want to hold the phone. I personally don't want to hold the 
>>>> phone if I don't have to, so this arrangement could work out well if 
>>>> the phone is lying on a desk or if I'm sitting with the phone resting 
>>>> in my lap.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: BrailleTouch
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>> It is not documented, but you can put your iPhone on a table and type 
>>>> with BrailleTouch sort of like on a Perkins, but with your fingers in 
>>>> the shape of a letter V. Several people have discovered this. Please 
>>>> try it and see if it works for you.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Caleb
>>>> http://brailletouchapp.com/
>>>>
>>>> On 2/2/2013 9:34 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
>>>>> Caleb, perhaps an alternative keyboard should be added.  My experience 
>>>>> is, if I hold my iPhone higher about face high, my fingers get the 
>>>>> correct dots most of the time but after awhile, holding the phone that 
>>>>> gets tiring.  How about using the phone on a table-top with the screen 
>>>>> facing up and the fingers forming a letter V.  The index fingers of 
>>>>> both hands in the bottom center of the screen and the remaining 
>>>>> fingers forming the rest of the V.  Perhaps it could be called table 
>>>>> top move and the normal way, hand-held.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: BrailleTouch
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 7:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rob and everyone,
>>>>> I'd like to try a suggestion for finding a good finger placement with
>>>>> BrailleTouch for new users and people having trouble with certain
>>>>> characters. Please let me know if this is helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you open the touchscreen braille keyboard,        first try to 
>>>>> find the
>>>>> four corners of the touchscreen. Let's assume you have not flipped the
>>>>> dots in the Settings. First, type dot 1 for the letter A with your 
>>>>> left
>>>>> index finger. Move your finger toward the corner of the iPhone until 
>>>>> you
>>>>> find the limits of the touch sensitive area of the screen.  Then type 
>>>>> an
>>>>> apostrophe with your left ring        finger, dot 3. Move this finger 
>>>>> toward
>>>>> that corner of the iPhone until        you find the limits. Now go 
>>>>> back and
>>>>> forth with the letter A and the        apostrophe until you have 
>>>>> comfortably
>>>>> and reliably located your left hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next, do the same thing with your right hand. Start with your right
>>>>> index finger on dot 4 for the at-sign. Then locate your right 
>>>>> ring
>>>>> finger on dot 6 for the capital sign. Then check both the at-sign and
>>>>> the capital sign back and forth until you've found a good position for
>>>>> your right hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am curious to know if this is helpful for anyone who is new to
>>>>> BrailleTouch or anyone who is having trouble getting certain 
>>>>> characters
>>>>> to work. Please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Caleb
>>>>> http://brailletouchapp.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/1/2013 3:04 PM, RobH! wrote:
>>>>> > I think they're about half inch in,  but there's some slack so 
>>>>> > absolute
>>>>> > accuracy isn't critical;  but can't afford to  stray out of the 
>>>>> > area. I'd
>>>>> > like  our  favourite producer adviser to give some idea of 
>>>>> > dimensions so we
>>>>> > might get a better idea of finger spacing;  I think that could 
>>>>> > betray us.
>>>>> > Can one be too far up or down towards an edge and miss that button?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks, RobH.
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Regina Alvarado" <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:23 PM
>>>>> > Subject: RE: Problems with        BRAILLETOUCH
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sorry Jen, I misspoke.  I am not touching the all caps with my 
>>>>> > little finger
>>>>> > but my ring finger.  I am holding the phone with the screen away 
>>>>> > from me and
>>>>> > my thumbs on top and little fingers holding the bottom in landscape. 
>>>>> > What I
>>>>> > need to know, or perhaps this is just more practice, is how far do I 
>>>>> > put my
>>>>> > Braille key fingers from the sides (top and bottom in portrait) into 
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > screen to be able to touch the dots.  Are they right above the home 
>>>>> > button
>>>>> > on the right and just below the ear slit on the left or are they 
>>>>> > further
>>>>> > into the screen?
>>>>> > Reggie
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> > Behalf
>>>>> > Of Jennie Facer
>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:06 PM
>>>>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> > Subject: Re: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > First of all, you don't hold your phone flat down on the table. Act 
>>>>> > as if
>>>>> > you were going to take a picture of yourself with the back camera. 
>>>>> > now, put
>>>>> > your palms on each end of the phone.  now rest your fingers 
>>>>> > vertically on
>>>>> > the screen.  dots 1, 2, and 3 are your left. Dots 4, 5, and 6 are 
>>>>> > your
>>>>> > right. I hope this makes some sense. Your hands have to be at each 
>>>>> > end of
>>>>> > the screen.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Write me off list if I can be of more helpp.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jenn
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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