I have it running on a 3GS, but that is slower to do anything, so not significantly slower doing bT than responding to my navigation around the screen.
Rh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:29 AM Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement Considering that it is going on with more than one app, and considering that the two reported apps are memory / processor intensive, I am willing to bet the sluggishness has more to do with older iDevices. IPhone 5 has 1 GB RAM and an A6 processor. IPhone 4S has 512 MB RAM and an A5 processor, whilst iPhone 4 has 256 MB RAM and a slower processor than the 4S. There was a drastic difference in speed, and much less delays when I upgraded to an iPhone 5. This is all expected behaviour and happens with computers as well. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 03/02/2013, at 13:05, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Cheryl, > You are correcT. When I go intoBraille Touch, and begin to type, the > letters are read back to me very delayed. Caleb told me to turn Vo ofF and > back on just as I must do in Fleksy. Hoping one of these developers will > come up with a fix as it is a workaround but would be better if not > necessary. I still wonder if it has something to do with upgrading over > the air. > > Reggie and Brooks > > On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I never turn off vo before I start typing. I think maybe some people are >> having sluggishness problesms and that's why they are doing it but I >> never do. >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> May the words of my mouth >> and the meditation of my heart >> be acceptable to You, Lord, >> my rock and my Redeemer. >> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Intteresting that for one person something works, but for the next, not >>> so much! I cannot be comfortable with the phone on a table, but lying on >>> my chest with my fingers as Braille Touch explains, I am getting faster >>> and faster. Guess that is the beauty of us all being different. Now if I >>> could only stop the necessity of turning off VO off and on! Will do it >>> as I love the app, but I wish I 'didN't have to do this before I start >>> to type! >>> >>> Reggie and Brooks >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Yes, I've just confirmed that you can definitely do this. I have my >>>> phone lying flat on my computer desk with the home buttton to the right >>>> and just used a v-shaped finger arrangement to type with Braille Touch. >>>> It will still take some getting used to, as you do need to be careful >>>> about finger placement, but that v-shaped arrangement is an option if >>>> you don't want to hold the phone. I personally don't want to hold the >>>> phone if I don't have to, so this arrangement could work out well if >>>> the phone is lying on a desk or if I'm sitting with the phone resting >>>> in my lap. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: BrailleTouch >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:49 AM >>>> Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement >>>> >>>> Hi Alan, >>>> It is not documented, but you can put your iPhone on a table and type >>>> with BrailleTouch sort of like on a Perkins, but with your fingers in >>>> the shape of a letter V. Several people have discovered this. Please >>>> try it and see if it works for you. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Caleb >>>> http://brailletouchapp.com/ >>>> >>>> On 2/2/2013 9:34 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote: >>>>> Caleb, perhaps an alternative keyboard should be added. My experience >>>>> is, if I hold my iPhone higher about face high, my fingers get the >>>>> correct dots most of the time but after awhile, holding the phone that >>>>> gets tiring. How about using the phone on a table-top with the screen >>>>> facing up and the fingers forming a letter V. The index fingers of >>>>> both hands in the bottom center of the screen and the remaining >>>>> fingers forming the rest of the V. Perhaps it could be called table >>>>> top move and the normal way, hand-held. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: BrailleTouch >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 7:40 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: BrailleTouch finger placement >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rob and everyone, >>>>> I'd like to try a suggestion for finding a good finger placement with >>>>> BrailleTouch for new users and people having trouble with certain >>>>> characters. Please let me know if this is helpful. >>>>> >>>>> When you open the touchscreen braille keyboard, first try to >>>>> find the >>>>> four corners of the touchscreen. Let's assume you have not flipped the >>>>> dots in the Settings. First, type dot 1 for the letter A with your >>>>> left >>>>> index finger. Move your finger toward the corner of the iPhone until >>>>> you >>>>> find the limits of the touch sensitive area of the screen. Then type >>>>> an >>>>> apostrophe with your left ring finger, dot 3. Move this finger >>>>> toward >>>>> that corner of the iPhone until you find the limits. Now go >>>>> back and >>>>> forth with the letter A and the apostrophe until you have >>>>> comfortably >>>>> and reliably located your left hand. >>>>> >>>>> Next, do the same thing with your right hand. Start with your right >>>>> index finger on dot 4 for the at-sign. Then locate your right >>>>> ring >>>>> finger on dot 6 for the capital sign. Then check both the at-sign and >>>>> the capital sign back and forth until you've found a good position for >>>>> your right hand. >>>>> >>>>> I am curious to know if this is helpful for anyone who is new to >>>>> BrailleTouch or anyone who is having trouble getting certain >>>>> characters >>>>> to work. Please let me know. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Caleb >>>>> http://brailletouchapp.com/ >>>>> >>>>> On 2/1/2013 3:04 PM, RobH! wrote: >>>>> > I think they're about half inch in, but there's some slack so >>>>> > absolute >>>>> > accuracy isn't critical; but can't afford to stray out of the >>>>> > area. I'd >>>>> > like our favourite producer adviser to give some idea of >>>>> > dimensions so we >>>>> > might get a better idea of finger spacing; I think that could >>>>> > betray us. >>>>> > Can one be too far up or down towards an edge and miss that button? >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks, RobH. >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> > From: "Regina Alvarado" <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> >>>>> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:23 PM >>>>> > Subject: RE: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Sorry Jen, I misspoke. I am not touching the all caps with my >>>>> > little finger >>>>> > but my ring finger. I am holding the phone with the screen away >>>>> > from me and >>>>> > my thumbs on top and little fingers holding the bottom in landscape. >>>>> > What I >>>>> > need to know, or perhaps this is just more practice, is how far do I >>>>> > put my >>>>> > Braille key fingers from the sides (top and bottom in portrait) into >>>>> > the >>>>> > screen to be able to touch the dots. Are they right above the home >>>>> > button >>>>> > on the right and just below the ear slit on the left or are they >>>>> > further >>>>> > into the screen? >>>>> > Reggie >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> > Behalf >>>>> > Of Jennie Facer >>>>> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:06 PM >>>>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> > Subject: Re: Problems with BRAILLETOUCH >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > First of all, you don't hold your phone flat down on the table. Act >>>>> > as if >>>>> > you were going to take a picture of yourself with the back camera. >>>>> > now, put >>>>> > your palms on each end of the phone. now rest your fingers >>>>> > vertically on >>>>> > the screen. dots 1, 2, and 3 are your left. Dots 4, 5, and 6 are >>>>> > your >>>>> > right. I hope this makes some sense. 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