My comments are mainly targeted, in this case, at the thought that sighted users of iPhone would rather use keyboard navigation. Save for a very few outlyers, this assertion is constantly proven incorrect.
As for programming and AV, object-oriented programming is primarily mouse oriented. Same with high-end AV editing and production. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/04/2013, at 12:10, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I can't disagree with anything you're saying, and I think you're right > when it comes to information consumption and inputs of small amounts of > information, but I don't see information and content generation going the way > of the tuch screen any time soon. I can't point to specific studies, but I > assume something must be driving companies like Microsoft, Canonical, > Motorola and Asus to develop converged devices which give you the tablet > based touch screen interface when you're mobile and a monitor/keyboard > centric interface when you're at your desk. Maybe this is just a set of > transitional products, but I just don't ever see programmers, writers, video > editors, publishers and so on doing their work exclusively on a touch screen. > Like I said, I have read the thread below, and I'm not sure I follow all of > it, but I don't see where the person who bought the bluetooth keyboard is > just using it when they're mobile. > > On 04/03/2013 05:48 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> Ok, step outside what you know. The following has been studied numerous >> times in many fields across the consumer information sectors. It includes >> everything from information kiosks and cash machines in very diverse venues >> to mobile information communication technology of various types and brands. >> >> When the interface is end-user (consumer) focused, people overwhelmingly >> prefer touch-screen direct access and manipulation of visual icons. They >> overwhelmingly report such interfaces are much more natural. Also, errors >> decrease significantly and productivity increases significantly when >> touch-screen interfaces are used. These are facts, not speculation or >> wishful thinking. New academic studies come out very regularly from >> different sectors which show very similar results. >> >> Now that acceptance and adoption of touch-screen technology has achieved >> critical mass, touch-screen control interfaces are becoming (and in many >> sectors have become) less expensive than traditional control interfaces >> using physical controls such as buttons, switches, knobs, and sliders. >> >> What this means is, the haptics rich environment of physical controls that >> we blind people prefer is continuing to disappear, and will continue >> disappearing. As the demand for such control interfaces reduces, costs for >> said interfaces will rise. This is how the market works. >> >> A sighted friend who always use to carry a bluetooth keyboard with him now >> does all his typing on his iPhone's onscreen keyboard when he is out. As he >> told me, once he got use to it, he no longer needs to carry, or worry about, >> the Bluetooth keyboard. >> >> We all know exceptions, but in general, the overwhelming majority of people >> studied, from many different groups and countries, prefer the direct >> influence they receive when utilising touch-screen interfaces. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 04/04/2013, at 11:16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well, I'm not sure I'm following the thread below, but there's nothing >>> wrong in requesting a feature. We can't always just accept what's out there >>> or things will never change and get better. >>> >>> I can also see a sighted user using a bluetooth keyboard and not wanting to >>> remove their hands from the keyboard to interact with the touch screen, so >>> if I understand the point in this thread, it doesn't seem so unreasonable >>> to me. >>> >>> On 04/03/2013 05:09 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >>>> Well, you can spend thousands of dollars and get a specialised note >>>> taker PDA for the blind, you can spend even more thousands of dollars to >>>> develop one yourself, or you can adjust to what is available. >>>> >>>> As I told my daughter whilst she was growing up, "You can want all you >>>> want." :-) >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 04/04/2013, at 10:32, "KK2006" <kking2...@sbcglobal.net >>>> <mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Understandable. I'm not sighted though and I want something >>>>> different, lol. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:56 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard >>>>> >>>>> When VO is not turned on, the keyboard is only used for entering >>>>> text into edit fields. Just as with the mouse, sighted people >>>>> overwhelmingly prefer directly interacting with visual icons and >>>>> images on the touch-screen over working through a less direct >>>>> keyboard interface. >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 04/04/2013, at 5:20, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I could be long, but I don't think Kayla is a voiceover user. But >>>>>> there has to be keyboard commands as this keyboard is sold to the >>>>>> general public. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:44 AM, "Alan Paganelli" >>>>>> <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net >>>>>> <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are the ones I've been saving. >>>>>>> iOS Keyboard shortcut commands >>>>>>> VoiceOver VO keys = Control plus Option >>>>>>> General navigation >>>>>>> Keys Action >>>>>>> VO plus left or right Select previous or next item >>>>>>> VO plus up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option >>>>>>> VO plus Space Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) >>>>>>> VO plus H Go to home screen >>>>>>> VO plus H 2 times Open/close multitask pane >>>>>>> Escape Go back, cancel, close pop-up >>>>>>> Cmd plus Tab Switch to next app or hold Shift for previous >>>>>>> VO plus A Read all from first object in selected area >>>>>>> VO plus B Read all from selected item >>>>>>> VO plus M Move to status bar >>>>>>> VO plus I Open Item Chooser for current area >>>>>>> VO plus F Search and go to match with Enter >>>>>>> VO plus G Next search match, hold Shift for previous >>>>>>> Handling VoiceOver >>>>>>> Keys Action >>>>>>> Control Pause/resume speech >>>>>>> VO plus S Toggle speech off/on >>>>>>> VO plus Shift plus S Toggle Screen Curtain on/off >>>>>>> VO plus Cmd plus up or down Adjust the selected speech rotor >>>>>>> option >>>>>>> VO plus Cmd plus left or right Change the speech rotor setting >>>>>>> VO plus / (slash) Add label to selected item >>>>>>> VO plus K Start VoiceOver training, Escape to exit >>>>>>> Quick Nav Commands >>>>>>> Turn on "Quick Nav" to use these commands by pressing left plus >>>>>>> right keys at the same time >>>>>>> Keys Action >>>>>>> up plus down Activate the selected item. (open app, press button) >>>>>>> left or right Selects the previous or next item >>>>>>> up or down Performs or move to the selected rotor option >>>>>>> up plus left or right Change to next or previous rotor setting >>>>>>> Option plus left or right Move to next or previous horizontal >>>>>>> screen/page >>>>>>> Option plus up or down Move/scroll up or down the screen/page >>>>>>> Control plus up or down Select the first or last item in the area >>>>>>> Control plus left or right Go to next or previous container/area >>>>>>> Safari Web Shortcuts >>>>>>> Hold Shift for previous >>>>>>> Keys Action >>>>>>> H Next heading >>>>>>> 1 to 6 Next respective heading level 1–6 >>>>>>> L Next link >>>>>>> S Next text element >>>>>>> W Next landmark >>>>>>> R Next text field >>>>>>> X Next list >>>>>>> T Next table >>>>>>> M Next element of same type >>>>>>> I Next image >>>>>>> B Next button >>>>>>> C Next form element >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other keyboard commands with Quicknav off >>>>>>> Esther Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:03:26 -0700 >>>>>>> (from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg26148.html >>>>>>> Apple Wireless Keyboard, also works on the AmazonBasics KT-1081 >>>>>>> eject - toggle showing / hiding virtual keyboard (this key is at >>>>>>> top right) >>>>>>> tab - move to next text field (e.g. in mail) >>>>>>> shift tab - move to previous text field >>>>>>> command z - undo >>>>>>> shift command z - redo >>>>>>> command x - cut >>>>>>> command c - copy >>>>>>> command v - paste >>>>>>> command a - select all >>>>>>> control - stops and restarts VoiceOver speaking (e.g., in the >>>>>>> middle of a two finger flick up or down to read all) command >>>>>>> space - change to next language keyboard (when you have more >>>>>>> than one selected) >>>>>>> shift command space - change to previous language keyboard >>>>>>> General movement and selection commands with command, option, >>>>>>> and arrow key combinations. (For these sequences, holding down >>>>>>> the shift key will select as well as move your cursor. On a PC >>>>>>> keyboard, the control key can be substituted for some, but not >>>>>>> all instances of the command key. On some keyboards, the Windows >>>>>>> key may replace the function of the command key.) >>>>>>> left / right arrows - move left or right by character >>>>>>> shift left / right arrows - select left or right by character >>>>>>> option left / right arrows - move left or right by word >>>>>>> shift option left / right arrows - select left or right by word >>>>>>> command left / right arrows - move to beginning or end of line >>>>>>> shift command left / right arrows - select to beginning or end >>>>>>> of line >>>>>>> up / down arrows - move up or down by line >>>>>>> shift up / down arrows - select up or down by line >>>>>>> command up arrow - move to start of document (page up on PC >>>>>>> keyboard) >>>>>>> shift command up arrow - select to start of document >>>>>>> command down arrow - move to end of document (page down on PC >>>>>>> keyboard) >>>>>>> shift command down arrow - select to end of document >>>>>>> delete - delete backward by character >>>>>>> option delete - delete backward by word >>>>>>> (forward delete sequences with the Fn key do not work) >>>>>>> some emacs-like control key sequences work: >>>>>>> control a - move to beginning of line >>>>>>> control e - move to end of line >>>>>>> control b - move back a character >>>>>>> control f - move forward a character >>>>>>> control h - backwards delete a character >>>>>>> control k - delete to end of line >>>>>>> control m - insert line feed (blank line) >>>>>>> Selections are slightly tricky, because they are based on your >>>>>>> current insertion point, so if you select a few words forward by >>>>>>> holding down the shift key and tapping the option key, then >>>>>>> press command up arrow to move to the start of the document >>>>>>> without releasing the shift key, you will end up reversing the >>>>>>> selection of the words you started with, and selecting all of >>>>>>> your document from your starting point to the beginning of the >>>>>>> document. Similarly, when you arrow down from the middle of a >>>>>>> line and hold down the shift key, you select all characters from >>>>>>> where you started to where you move to in the middle of the next >>>>>>> line. On a Mac you can check your selections while you work, but >>>>>>> here you can't. For more background details on how these >>>>>>> commands work for selection, see my archived post on "Moving and >>>>>>> Selecting in Cocoa Apps: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02038.html >>>>>>> Media Controls >>>>>>> F3 - Previous Track >>>>>>> F4 - Play/pause >>>>>>> F5 - Next track >>>>>>> F6 - Mute/unmute >>>>>>> F7 - Decrease Volume >>>>>>> F8 - Increase volume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> *From:* KK2006 <mailto:kking2...@sbcglobal.net> >>>>>>> *To:* viphone list <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:37 PM >>>>>>> *Subject:* Logitech Blue Tooth Tablet Keyboard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> I just bought the Logitech Tablet Blue Tooth Keyboard from >>>>>>> Best Buy this evening. It has a great feel. It was >>>>>>> originally designed for the ipad but seems to work with the >>>>>>> iPhone 4S just fine. >>>>>>> Having said that, I don't know where to even begin accessing >>>>>>> the homescreen button and cannot seem to click on any >>>>>>> icons. 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