Then if you don’t like it switch to something you do like and find easier to use. no one is holding a gun to your head and making you stay with apple products.
May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: > If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you say. > But apple is not the cheaper or the standard price for their products. Of > course, I feel that I have right of say that I am in disagreement when I pay > a thousand dollars for a phone, and I have to be fighting with the > accessibility, when it was working better in previous versions of IOs. > Yes, I feel that I have right to be saying that I don't like it. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Cc: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? > > > In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? > There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well, > some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does > not mean that Apple doesn't care about accessibility or does not take it > seriously, because if you extend that logic, then bugs anywhere must mean > they don't care about any of their software. Voiceover is no different from > any other aspect of Apple's products: it is mostly great, it has bugs, they > fix the bugs, they update, more bugs come along, and the cycle continues. > That's true of all software anywhere. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:01, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> With respect, let me go through some of the things below. In regards to >> hanging up a call. Yes, I have notice that doing a 2 finger double tap >> doesn’t always hang up a call on the first try. Generally, the second try >> will do the trick. About phone numbers in a text, turn the rotor to links, >> flick down to the number, and double tap and hold. A dialog appears asking >> you if you want to call, text, or save the number to contacts. This is not >> a bug. If you don’t like the way its now done that’s one thing. But it >> isn’t broken. >> >> Web forms? Yes. This is definitely buggy in IOS 7. There is no excuse for >> that. But I will continue to say, I think some people on the list have very >> short memories. Remember all the bugs that were found in IOS 6 when it >> first launched? I’m sorry, bugs in software is just a fact of life at >> launch. There have been a couple minor updates. But we are still on a .0 >> release. Can we at least hold off until 7.1 comes out so we can see what’s >> what? And about the persons Nokia phone, last time I checked, it was >> running a dead OS, a non existent app store in which I bet the accessible >> apps were slim pickings indeed. I say this just to point out, if you want >> to take 3 or 4 bugs, and compare it to an operating system that no longer >> being supported, that’s fine. But, anyone can do that. >> >> JMO >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6 came. Looks like every time >>> apple write a new code, with new developers, and the accessibility problems >>> every time are worse. They are not learning of the previous IOs >>> experiences, they are not paying attention to it, or they want to become >>> the accessibility in something that another company will care. With IOs 7, >>> I am getting the same problems than you, and bunches of others. But the >>> response that I found is that every IOs brings bugs. It is a very poor >>> excuse, because with IOs 7, is when I have been taking more problems to >>> access information with my apple devices. >>> Apple wants that every year, every body update the IOs, saying that not >>> more support for older versions of the IOs, but at the same time, we have >>> to be suffering during the year, the bugs that every IOs brings, we come to >>> the end of the year, and start again with another IOs. It is not fir. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <sen...@gmail.com> >>> To: "ViPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:40 AM >>> Subject: When will Apple take this seriously? >>> >>> >>> This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the many >>> shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared in ver >>> 7 that were not in IOS6. >>> It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are >>> compromised. >>> 1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the call >>> but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a >>> drain on my wallet due to large long distance call charges. >>> 2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able to call or >>> message or store the number with a tap. No! I could do it with my 6 year >>> old Nokia better. >>> 3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my previous >>> phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 times to get a iphone >>> and guess what? I can do less with it! Very frustrating. >>> This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new IOS >>> versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs will stick with >>> us. Technology for the sake of technology. But no technology for the >>> visually challenged. Wish someone would charge more but make a phone that >>> works. 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