hmm, the prices are the same @ apple reseller or @ carrier.
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:06:37PM -0500, Pablo Morales wrote: > yes, you are right. Some times buy a phone directly to apple is > cheaper than buy it to a cell phone company. I bought my iPhone with > my cell phone company, but I paid it the same day, like this I > didn't use a contract when I will be paying in 2 years, more than > paying it in one step. > Now I got my iPhone unlocked, and without higher prices per month. > , > ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter" > <peter.durieux1...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? > > > Hi, > > this is a misstake that a lot of guys make. The carrier situation > where you buy a phone with a contract and so paying less for your > iphone is true. > > Here in Belgium for example you'll pay 700 euro's for a new Iphone > 5s 16gb with or without a contract. > If you want to buy your Iphone at an official Apple reseller, > sometimes you have to wait for month to get your phone, cause that > one carrier get the most phones and then the other stores. > > kr > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:53:29AM -0500, David L Minton, Jr wrote: > >OkPablo, The only reason you pay full price for the phone is cause > >you do not want to have a contract with a carrier. If that cause > >you are the one to be a fault for complaining that the cost is to > >high. There is nothing in this world that is perfect. Thinks have > >to start somewhere and things have to be fixed to keep them running > >up to par. I have the same phone and sixe you have. Like I said , > >you are the one to choose to pay full price instead of the upgrade > >price through your carrier. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Pablo Morales" > ><pablomorale...@gmail.com> > >To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > >Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:27 AM > >Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? > > > > > >If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you > >say. But apple is not the cheaper or the standard price for their > >products. > >Of course, I feel that I have right of say that I am in > >disagreement when I > >pay a thousand dollars for a phone, and I have to be fighting with the > >accessibility, when it was working better in previous versions of IOs. > >Yes, I feel that I have right to be saying that I don't like it. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> > >To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > >Cc: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> > >Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM > >Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously? > > > > > >In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? > >There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted > >people as well, > >some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does > >not mean that Apple doesn't care about accessibility or does not take it > >seriously, because if you extend that logic, then bugs anywhere must mean > >they don't care about any of their software. Voiceover is no > >different from > >any other aspect of Apple's products: it is mostly great, it has > >bugs, they > >fix the bugs, they update, more bugs come along, and the cycle continues. > >That's true of all software anywhere. > > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >>On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:01, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>Hi, > >> > >>With respect, let me go through some of the things below. In > >>regards to hanging up a call. Yes, I have notice that doing a 2 > >>finger double tap doesn’t always hang up a call on the first try. > >>Generally, the second try will do the trick. About phone numbers > >>in a text, turn the rotor to links, flick down to the number, and > >>double tap and hold. A dialog appears asking you if you want to > >>call, text, or save the number to contacts. This is not a bug. > >>If you don’t like the way its now done that’s one thing. But it > >>isn’t broken. > >> > >>Web forms? Yes. This is definitely buggy in IOS 7. There is no > >>excuse for that. But I will continue to say, I think some people > >>on the list have very short memories. Remember all the bugs that > >>were found in IOS 6 when it first launched? I’m sorry, bugs in > >>software is just a fact of life at launch. There have been a > >>couple minor updates. But we are still on a .0 release. Can we > >>at least hold off until 7.1 comes out so we can see what’s what? > >>And about the persons Nokia phone, last time I checked, it was > >>running a dead OS, a non existent app store in which I bet the > >>accessible apps were slim pickings indeed. I say this just to > >>point out, if you want to take 3 or 4 bugs, and compare it to an > >>operating system that no longer being supported, that’s fine. > >>But, anyone can do that. > >> > >>JMO > >> > >>Ricardo Walker > >>rica...@appletothecore.info > >>Twitter:@apple2thecore > >>www.appletothecore.info > >> > >>>On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Pablo Morales > >>><pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6 came. Looks like > >>>every time apple write a new code, with new developers, and the > >>>accessibility problems every time are worse. They are not > >>>learning of the previous IOs experiences, they are not paying > >>>attention to it, or they want to become the accessibility in > >>>something that another company will care. With IOs 7, I am > >>>getting the same problems than you, and bunches of others. But > >>>the response that I found is that every IOs brings bugs. It is a > >>>very poor excuse, because with IOs 7, is when I have been taking > >>>more problems to access information with my apple devices. > >>>Apple wants that every year, every body update the IOs, saying > >>>that not more support for older versions of the IOs, but at the > >>>same time, we have to be suffering during the year, the bugs > >>>that every IOs brings, we come to the end of the year, and start > >>>again with another IOs. It is not fir. > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- From: <sen...@gmail.com> > >>>To: "ViPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:40 AM > >>>Subject: When will Apple take this seriously? > >>> > >>> > >>>This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with > >>>the many shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that > >>>have appeared in ver 7 that were not in IOS6. > >>>It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions > >>>are compromised. > >>>1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended > >>>the call but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing > >>>situations and also a drain on my wallet due to large long > >>>distance call charges. > >>>2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able > >>>to call or message or store the number with a tap. No! I could > >>>do it with my 6 year old Nokia better. > >>>3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my > >>>previous phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 > >>>times to get a iphone and guess what? I can do less with it! > >>>Very frustrating. > >>>This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new > >>>IOS versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs > >>>will stick with us. Technology for the sake of technology. But > >>>no technology for the visually challenged. Wish someone would > >>>charge more but make a phone that works. 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