OkPablo, The only reason you pay full price for the phone is cause
you do not want to have a contract with a carrier. If that cause
you are the one to be a fault for complaining that the cost is to
high. There is nothing in this world that is perfect. Thinks have
to start somewhere and things have to be fixed to keep them running
up to par. I have the same phone and sixe you have. Like I said ,
you are the one to choose to pay full price instead of the upgrade
price through your carrier.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pablo Morales"
<pablomorale...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you
say. But apple is not the cheaper or the standard price for their products.
Of course, I feel that I have right of say that I am in disagreement when I
pay a thousand dollars for a phone, and I have to be fighting with the
accessibility, when it was working better in previous versions of IOs.
Yes, I feel that I have right to be saying that I don't like it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO?
There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS release for sighted people as well,
some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does
not mean that Apple doesn't care about accessibility or does not take it
seriously, because if you extend that logic, then bugs anywhere must mean
they don't care about any of their software. Voiceover is no different from
any other aspect of Apple's products: it is mostly great, it has bugs, they
fix the bugs, they update, more bugs come along, and the cycle continues.
That's true of all software anywhere.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:01, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
With respect, let me go through some of the things below. In
regards to hanging up a call. Yes, I have notice that doing a 2
finger double tap doesn’t always hang up a call on the first try.
Generally, the second try will do the trick. About phone numbers
in a text, turn the rotor to links, flick down to the number, and
double tap and hold. A dialog appears asking you if you want to
call, text, or save the number to contacts. This is not a bug.
If you don’t like the way its now done that’s one thing. But it
isn’t broken.
Web forms? Yes. This is definitely buggy in IOS 7. There is no
excuse for that. But I will continue to say, I think some people
on the list have very short memories. Remember all the bugs that
were found in IOS 6 when it first launched? I’m sorry, bugs in
software is just a fact of life at launch. There have been a
couple minor updates. But we are still on a .0 release. Can we
at least hold off until 7.1 comes out so we can see what’s what?
And about the persons Nokia phone, last time I checked, it was
running a dead OS, a non existent app store in which I bet the
accessible apps were slim pickings indeed. I say this just to
point out, if you want to take 3 or 4 bugs, and compare it to an
operating system that no longer being supported, that’s fine.
But, anyone can do that.
JMO
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Pablo Morales
<pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6 came. Looks like
every time apple write a new code, with new developers, and the
accessibility problems every time are worse. They are not
learning of the previous IOs experiences, they are not paying
attention to it, or they want to become the accessibility in
something that another company will care. With IOs 7, I am
getting the same problems than you, and bunches of others. But
the response that I found is that every IOs brings bugs. It is a
very poor excuse, because with IOs 7, is when I have been taking
more problems to access information with my apple devices.
Apple wants that every year, every body update the IOs, saying
that not more support for older versions of the IOs, but at the
same time, we have to be suffering during the year, the bugs
that every IOs brings, we come to the end of the year, and start
again with another IOs. It is not fir.
----- Original Message ----- From: <sen...@gmail.com>
To: "ViPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:40 AM
Subject: When will Apple take this seriously?
This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with
the many shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that
have appeared in ver 7 that were not in IOS6.
It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions
are compromised.
1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended
the call but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing
situations and also a drain on my wallet due to large long
distance call charges.
2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able
to call or message or store the number with a tap. No! I could
do it with my 6 year old Nokia better.
3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my
previous phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10
times to get a iphone and guess what? I can do less with it!
Very frustrating.
This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new
IOS versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs
will stick with us. Technology for the sake of technology. But
no technology for the visually challenged. Wish someone would
charge more but make a phone that works. With IOS7 AND IPHONE
all one can do is pull ones hair out, welcome to a bald world
populated with buggy iphones!
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