This is why I always run my Ipad mini in airplane mode when I don't need wi-fi.

On 6/6/2014 3:30 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
Hi all,

One of the major battery hogs is Wi-Fi. You'd be surprised the amount of
days you'll go when Wi-Fi is disabled.
Yes, sometimes an inconvenience, but the life of your battery is not
determined by time, it is determined by amount of full charge/discharge
cycles.
In other words, if your iDevice goes through the charge/discharge process
daily, and if you change how you use your device to conserve battery life to
2 or 3 days, then you will double or triple your device's overall lifespan.
Its been said that in general, using a lithium-ion battery, one has about
500 charge/discharge cycles before battery no longer holds a strong charge.
The cool thing about iPhone users is that within a couple of seconds one can
turn on and turn off Wi-Fi using Siri.

Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismuno...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 3:02 PM
Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


I too am an every-overnight charger of my phone. I do have certain things
disabled and the screen brightness turned to zero, but still, I blaze
through the charge and often use the Mophie Juice Pack towards the end of
the day if I'm out and about. Really though, it's not that big a deal. You
can only disable so many things before you begin to kill the purpose of the
phone and its features.
Besides, it's not like it's a huge inconvenience to plug it in to charge.
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Of Gmail
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Really? I usually have to plug my phone in every night. Admittedly, this
could be the iOS 7 dictation bug going on, but that can't account for all of
it.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:49 AM, "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
wrote:

As I recall, he says that one has to recharge their battery every day.
I, for one, have never had to do that. True, I don't play 24 hours of
music or use the phone or other applications 12 to 15 hours a day,
just to pick some random numbers, but I can often go for days without
recharging. It's this kind of blanket statement that makes me wonder
how much time he spent with his phone.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

just to answer the question, though it's straying off-topic for this list:
the update to the Samsung Haven and the Jitterbug are the only two
feature phones i know of that are totally accessible.

Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P.
Feynman

On Jun 5, 2014, at 1:40 AM, Christopher J Chaltain
<chalt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I assume David isn't talking about me specifically, but if so, this
totally misrepresents the opinion I've stated and stated fairly recently.

The fact of the matter is that a sighted person can buy a feature
phone
without a data plan. They can still make calls, send text messages,
keep track of personal information (like reminders, appointments,
contacts and so on). I'm not sure a blind person has this option any
more, and if they do, it's getting harder and harder to find. What are
a blind person's option if they just want a feature phone and don't want a
smart phone?

I'm not saying there aren't blind people who want something for
nothing,
but why should blind people be any different than the general population.
This isn't what I and others are asking for though. I've never said a
blind person should be able to use all of the features of a smart
phone and not have to purchase a data plan. I do think it's a valid
point though the blind people do not have the feature phone option and
the ability to use a cell phone without a data plan that sighted people
do.

On 6/5/2014 2:51 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
The point about a data plan is a point some in the blind community
have
been complaining about ever since the accessible iPhone 3GS was released.
Some people do not wish to have a data plan, but still want an iPhone
for everything it can do. AT&T would not sell an iPhone on contract
without a data plan, and the unsubsidised price of the iPhone is quite
high.

Personally, I have not heard this complaint for a couple years now,
so
forgot about it. SmartPhones require data plans in order to fully
function.
Oh, and the same people, when they could get the carriers to remove
the data plan, tended to complain because many of those desired
features were then crippled.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Jun 2014, at 17:31, don bishop <donb...@emissives.com> wrote:

The first thing that jumped right out at me was his statement that
apple
does not offer a data plan and you need one to get on the internet.
Doesn't he know that dataplans are controled by your phone carrier?
Also has he ever heard of wifi?

Simply shocking from someone who should know better.
Yes, he's been around for a very long time and was head of the nfb
technology user's group.   Don't know if still is or not.
Din


----- Original Message -----
From: Neal Ewers <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:13 pm
Subject: RE: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone


Curtis Chong the author of this article has been around for some
time. It would have been interesting if the article had been
written by someone younger.

Neal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

Um. Where to start? Well, if you don't want a smart phone, don't
get one. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, get an iPod
Touch, or an iPad without a data plan. What are those, you say?
Hmmm. As for the virtual keyboards they're not as fast for anyone
as a regular keyboard. How fast was the old method of using the
teeny keys on a "real" phone keyboard or even the numpad keys for
typing letters? Not very. And why not use Siri to call a number?
What is Siri? Hmmm.

I will say that I have come across folks at my local blind center
who receive iPhones and haven't the slightest idea how to operate
them. A well-meaning person might have given it as a gift, but
they ask me why they can't do things more simply. Maybe for some,
a bit more one-on-one attention would have been a good idea.

having said this, I think this article is more than a tad
condescending, if addressed to most blind folks out there.

Teresa

"The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham

On Jun 4, 2014, at 8:52 PM, 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
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Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article
covering
the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it
would be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten
things which are "not good" about the iPhone but this article
supposedly did just that.  I plan to write a detailed blog post in
the coming week with my responses to the ten objections but I'll
just say that it's one of the most irresponsible pieces of
journalism I've ever read from that magazine.  Please, understand
that this is not meant as a bash about the NFB vs any other
organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.  However, the
piece infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential
organization and many of its members and readers of the Monitor
will take the article seriously just because it comes from a
nationally recognized blindness organization.  My fear is that
many people may read this article and
will be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things which the article
claims are "not good" about the device.
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